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Oh noes! Does that mean my BT mouse won't work with an iPhone?
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Oh noes! Does that mean my BT mouse won't work with an iPhone?
:shock: :o

or your BT hub :lol:

For whatever the reason Apple have restricted the bluetooth functionality on the iPhone.

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To stop you BT'ing songs and iTunes purchases to other people would be the most obvious reason.

Why they don't allow contacts transfers via BT is a mystery though.

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Sorry I cant resist this question.

What has British Telecom got to do with the postings in this thread? :D

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To stop you BT'ing songs and iTunes purchases to other people would be the most obvious reason.

Why they don't allow contacts transfers via BT is a mystery though.

Yet every other handset manufacturer has conspiciously failed to stop people doing this? Yet Apple decided that they had to do this.
Or do they have a strategy to slowly add functionality at each OS upgrade so they can say look it can do this.

Point in case is the current iphone adverts, showing the iPhone can do cut & paste. Is it highlighting the fact it didnt have it, when other smartphones did or is it saying look now it has it buy it.

What ever it is, its working for them and there making a stupidly large amount of wonga from it.

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Sorry I cant resist this question.

What has British Telecom got to do with the postings in this thread? :D


Its from the contraction people use of BT meaning bluetooth, I personally have to do a double take from thinking they are talking about BT the telecommunication company :lol:

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Point in case is the current iphone adverts, showing the iPhone can do cut & paste. Is it highlighting the fact it didnt have it, when other smartphones did or is it saying look now it has it buy it.

What ever it is, its working for them and there making a stupidly large amount of wonga from it.


I thought it was saying look how well it works and how easy to use it is.

On a Nokia, how easy is it to cut an image from a website and and SMS it? Or to copy a map and paste it into an Email? The iPhone ads shows it taking two taps to copy and two more to paste. The implementation and ease of use is the selling point here.

All of the early iPhone ads. and many of the later ones are just demos showing "look this is not a difficult device to use". (The others are ads showing the versatility of the device)

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Why they don't allow contacts transfers via BT is a mystery though.


You can just send them in an SMS, so why would you want to? It's less hassle to fling someone an SMS than it is to establish which in the list of 50 devices is your mates phone then pair with it before finally sending the contact.

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Why they don't allow contacts transfers via BT is a mystery though.


You can just send them in an SMS, so why would you want to? It's less hassle to fling someone an SMS than it is to establish which in the list of 50 devices is your mates phone then pair with it before finally sending the contact.


I can BT a contact to my netbook. I can't SMS it.

Additionally, when exchanging contacts I generally don't have the other person's number. If I have to type it in to send the SMS, then that makes it all rather inefficient. I may as well just click "add contact" after I've I've typed it in.

Plus, there's the rather obvious factor of cost. Unless you're on an expensive monthly contract then you generally have to pay for SMS.

So the question really is, why have they f*cked it up? Is it to force us to buy upgrades and pay more needlessly on things everyone else gives for free?

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Point in case is the current iphone adverts, showing the iPhone can do cut & paste. Is it highlighting the fact it didnt have it, when other smartphones did or is it saying look now it has it buy it.

What ever it is, its working for them and there making a stupidly large amount of wonga from it.


I thought it was saying look how well it works and how easy to use it is.

On a Nokia, how easy is it to cut an image from a website and and SMS it? Or to copy a map and paste it into an Email? The iPhone ads shows it taking two taps to copy and two more to paste. The implementation and ease of use is the selling point here.

All of the early iPhone ads. and many of the later ones are just demos showing "look this is not a difficult device to use". (The others are ads showing the versatility of the device)


Yes the implementation is done very well but how easy it is to do something similar on another phone is irrelavent IMHO AS if Apple are going to make a song and dance about it it better well be bloody well implimented :D as I can remember back to 2006 (oh it seems so long ago :lol: ) on my M600i I could copy/cut/paste so it just seems odd to make a big thing about a feature that has been round for "donkeys years".

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All of the early iPhone ads. and many of the later ones are just demos showing "look this is not a difficult device to use". (The others are ads showing the versatility of the device)


I like the disclaimer at the bottom of the advert 'some steps have been removed.'!!!

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Don't forget the iphone has wifi. You can use it with dropbox or airshare (app) to transfer files etc


If I had WiFi access, I probably wouldn't be using the phone for data. Consider this scenario;

Your laptop's battery is going to run out in 5 minutes, and you need to transfer a file to your phone. Perhaps it's a document you've been working on and need to send to someone. You're on a train, don't have WiFi and your laptop isn't on line. This is quite a regular thing for me, and I'd use bluetooth on my not-very-smart Nokia. Going back ten years I used IR; a little tricky in the car, but I've done it many times.

How do you do it on an iPhone? Would Airshare help?

Whilst it's true that the Bluetooth on the iPhone is rather akin to the proverbial chocolate teapot, you can use WiFi to transfer files between your phone and laptop.

When I looked, last year, there were quite a few applications that did this - there are probably more now. I don't have Airshare, I have this (mostly because it was on offer at the time). The laptop doesn't need to be online, you can create an ad hoc network and use that (although, in best Blue Peter tradition, it might be prudent to prepare one earlier rather than wait until you only have 5 minutes of battery left...).


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