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TheFrenchun
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Took them 6 months to write 138 words!
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Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:07 am |
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MrStevenRogers
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but what excellent reading it makes ...
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jonlumb
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Only if you're a moron with at best a tenuous grasp of reality.
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Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:47 am |
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MrStevenRogers
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oh humm. still good reading ...
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didgeman
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jonlumb
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It's not surprising, you had to be really [LIFTED] stupid to vote Leave.
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Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:38 am |
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MrStevenRogers
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ho humm ...
from a 20+ year card carrying member.
this is a rebellion isn't it, i rebel.
i and like minded others will rock your world ...
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paulzolo
What's a life?
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Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:44 pm |
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MrStevenRogers
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"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." on to the next step ...
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Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:16 am |
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MrStevenRogers
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 |  |  |  | MrStevenRogers wrote:  |  |  |  | big_D wrote: As has been pointed out, WTO is the default deal for schlubs who can't get a decent deal, so that they aren't totally kicked in the goolies and robbed blind.
Also, dealing with the EU is the bread and butter for many companies, because it is just a stone's throw away, and currently no import/export duties, so their products are competitive and can be transported fairly quickly. The only thing making them less competitive is the cost of the Channel crossing.
Dealing with other parts of the world means the goods have to be transported much further, meaning higher costs, and producing in the UK also isn't very economical, compared to Asia, then you have import duties to add to the price, that makes the goods even less attractive.
And judging by what I see on Amazon Germany, a lot of Brits make a living out of importing Chinese electronics and selling them in Europe. That business model will be hit on the head by Brexit.
There are a lot of things to be considered, especially with businesses, big and small, and how much they currently deal with Europe and how the changes will affect them - for many of these small retailers who specialise in delivering cheap goods to Europe, it will mean folding up their business; generally they are one of a dozen retailers advertising on Amazon and eBay and their prices are about equal to "local" companies. Slap on import duties and the hassles with customs in the target countries and nobody will use them.
For large multi-nationals, it is easier, they just open up a subsidiary in Europe, if they don't already have one. The UK subsidiaries will lose in importance and depending on the amount of business that the UK itself accounts for, many will be downsized or even closed.
Mid sized manufacturing businesses that survive by dealing with Europe will also be in a mess.
Then there is the anti-immigration thing, there the Brexiteers are looking to send back the skilled workers and often the EU skilled workers are there, because there are no UK workers (or not enough) in those fields. That will also have an affect on business as well.
I can see a spike in unemployment caused by a hard Brexit. Over the long term, it will probably level out, but it will be painful in the short term.
Also, what are you going to do about the sudden influx of ex-pat Brits who get kicked out of Europe, as they are no longer allowed to remain, because the UK is no longer part of the EU? Immigration in the EU works both ways, you know.
I hope that it isn't going to be as grim as it looks at the moment. The Brexiteers have won, but I still don't see anything coherent coming out of the UK about how they are going to deal with all those businesses that survive solely through their trade with the EU. |  |  |  |  |
big-D the EU export more to the UK then the UK export to the EU we win on any tariffs. the UK will be a member of NAFTA of which the UK will be able to use any trade deals already agreed. the UK will strike deals via or using WTO with other nations outside of the EU until a 'FREE' trade deal is reached. if A50 is not invoked then a early GE will follow which will result in a massive majority Govt. which part of 'LEAVE' are you failing to understand ... |  |  |  |  |
we talked about the results of CETA now please read the statement from the other party ie. Canada ... the UK will trade with the world not only using WTO but any other agreement up to and including NAFTA and CETA. including any/all other agreements that are available of which are binding that we or they are willing to negotiate and join. using the agreements that are already in place. the EU have no power to stop this and that will be the EU's undoing. wait and watch, read and weep ...
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davrosG5
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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I think it might be advisable to find out what CETA actually entails before being all wildly happy about it. If you want to take back sovereignty for the UK then you should be particularly worried out the secret courts provisions for trade disputes - you know, a corporation being able to sue a country for having laws that inhibit them making money (trivial things like environmental protection, no-smoking laws or things that give workers rights and protections like not being poisoned at work).
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Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:01 pm |
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MrStevenRogers
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i agree CETA is a rubbish agreement and no i dont want to trade under it. but it would open the gates for an agreement to trade under WTO ...
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Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:52 pm |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
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jonbwfc
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I'm genuinely beginning to think the man is as delusional as Trump. Does he actually think after Chilcott, Iraq etc. anybody is going to trust him at all, let alone listen to any argument he might have about redoing what we've only just voted on about six months ago? 'Yes Tony, it did turn out you fed us a complete load of bollocks last time but please, do tell us how you think swimming through that particular divisive tunnel of political sewage again is a good idea!' 
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pcernie
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I think he will say anything to try and claw back attention and former prestige.
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