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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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It's never made higher than 8th in any poll of voter's priorities, regardless of the makeup of the sample. It's a massively expensive weapon system which is quite probably already obsolete, we're massively unlikely to ever use and which in geopolitical terms absolutely redundant. We would only ever actually require Trident in the event of somebody threatening to nuke the UK *after* the US and France had both unilaterally completely disarmed (they both have more nukes than we do and are committed to a common defence treaty under NATO regulations). It's a £100bn willy substitute at a time we have no carriers, no aircraft to fly from them, 30 year old strike aircraft, fewer ground forces than we have had for centuries and no AWACS style aircraft to patrol and protect our national airspace or territorial waters. It's a colossal waste of time and money, and the only people who want it are the people who will benefit from building it and politicians who have masculinity issues.
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Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:27 am |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Jeremy Corbyn defends reshuffle with call for Labour unity | Politics | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... -party-bbcIt would be an idea to find out what Labour voters actually want at this point, wouldn't it? I'd hazard a guess at something noticeably more left-wing than the Tories. Oh, and that requires vastly more guts than just being a collaborator in parliament then telling the voters you're something else entirely. That would be progressive and truer to the party's supposed values.
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Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:00 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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I know, it's almost as if the voters have an option isn't it? Be careful, they might get ideas above their station.
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Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:14 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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'Davey Cameron is a pie': Jeremy Corbyn's Twitter account hijacked | Politics | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... t-hijacked 
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Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:34 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Shadow attorney general Catherine McKinnell resigns | Politics | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ront-benchTruth is nobody outside the party will give a sh1t and to be brutally honest today was the worst possible day if a story was the intention.
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Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:10 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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That's a very odd post in the first place. The Attorney General has a given role as part of the 'legal back office' of the government. There's not really an equivalent job for the 'shadow' in that case to do. With Defence or Health or whatever the job of the shadow is to analyse what the minister is doing/proposing and to put forward the opposition's policy in those areas. The attorney general is not a 'policy' job, there's real way to oppose it other than to say 'no, that's wrong.'
I wonder if there's any record of what the Shadow Attorney General (whoever it was before Corbyn got elected anyway - the fact I have no idea who it was says something or other) has actually done in the six months or so of this parliament so far. I suspect their actions as an MP will be in Hansard but god knows whether the shadow cabinet minutes etc. are documented anywhere.
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Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:46 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Yeah, it was the first I'd heard of it, thought I'd missed something all these years.
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Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:00 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Revealed: how Jeremy Corbyn has reshaped the Labour party | Politics | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... bour-partyLike I said before, the youth are where Labour are currently at.
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Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:35 am |
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pcernie
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Emily Thornberry will have final say on Labour's Trident review | Politics | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ivingstoneShe's more acceptable for everyone than Ken lol.
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Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:07 pm |
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pcernie
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Jeremy Corbyn announces plans to ban senior executives from receiving vastly higher salaries than junior employees http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 15261.htmlHe's anti-business, you know! The PLP will have a fit. This sort of thing is what got Miliband traction and they need to have the balls to push through with it. The Tories are already bullying them into submission, nothing to lose and everything to gain by coming out fighting. All they have to do is talk up wealthy Tory donors while they're at it. With the EU it won't be long before the Tories can be painted as economically incompetent.
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Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:23 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
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If they have half an ounce of sense they won't even need the EU. George Osborne has missed every one of the specific targets for the economy he's ever set, to the point where he's not even bothering to mention anything specific any more. Of course George Osborne could literally set the Bank of England on fire and single handedly cause a recession on the scale of 2007 again and most of the press would conveniently ignore it. Labour's problem is not so much whether what they say is correct, it's the fact that the majority of the media simply won't give them the chance to say it whether it is or not.
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Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:38 pm |
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pcernie
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Jeremy Corbyn hints at no-nuke subs in Trident compromise | Politics | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... r-warheadsInstalling Thornberry looks to be one of his better decisions, even though he hadn't really much choice lol. Jeremy Corbyn says he would repeal Thatcher's sympathy strikes ban | Politics | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... trikes-banNot often I agree with Prescott, but he's kinda right.
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Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:17 pm |
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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I wasn't sure if this should be in This Thread WTF Thread Tales of Fail Something that made you laugh out loud What ever way you look at it "he's a nutter"
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Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:44 am |
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davrosG5
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:37 am Posts: 6954 Location: Peebo
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I know, imagine spending billions of pounds buying/building defence equipment without the necessary kit to go on/in it. That would never happen under any other government.
It's an option to consider that protects jobs in the defence industry and keeps two major Labour contributors on side. Imagine that, a political party trying to shape its policy to please major backers.
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Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:25 am |
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Tsar
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 573 Location: Sunny Hastings
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re the no nuke bit some one on fb from up there by the sub base it NOT missiles that's problem it the SUBS need to be RENEWED who the let that IDIOT get to be leader 
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