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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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As you point out, they're the spiritual successors of all sorts of people who got into a boat and set sail for pastures unknown. And a lot of those parties didn't end well. Space is a really nasty, terribly unpleasant place to be in all sorts of ways. There's the temperature fluctuations, radiation, high speed microparticles, the dust (moon dust certainly isn't good for you and it gets everywhere) probably means that any sealed environment probably won't stay that way indefinitely. Look at the effect it's had on the wheels of the rover. Then there's the sand storms. You'd really hope to be staying indoors for as long as possible. Call me cowardly, but dropping dead from old age appeals much more.
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Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:33 pm |
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jonbwfc
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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Certainly from a comfort point of view, yes. Although the fact is these people are going to be remembered for the rest of human history if they actually make it - the first humans to set foot on another planet. And they may have in their mind the notion that within their remaining lifetime we'll figure out a way to travel back and forth to Mars by a mechanism that doesn't take years and billions of dollars, so in their dotage they may be able to actually come back. At least maybe as far as Earth orbit - Mars has lower gravity than Earth, so I would imagine after a decade or two there they wouldn't be able to survive actually coming back to the place they were born. There's a definite chance that they will get there and their lives will be pretty short and pretty hard. We know lots more about Mars because Curiosity has been rolling round it so the idea of making a long term survivable habitat on Mars isn't quite as fanciful as it was even recently. But there's no getting away from the fact that if anything at all serious goes wrong, they're screwed. Just remember to tell them to take at least one copy of 'The Martian' by Andy Weir with them, just in case  .
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Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:29 pm |
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Fogmeister
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:35 pm Posts: 6580 Location: Getting there
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Giving a talk tomorrow at a monthly tech/design meet up.
I was only asked this afternoon and only agreed this evening. Written a script and most of the Keynote presentation.
It's only 5 minutes long but getting nervous. Lol!
I'm doing it about the Apple Watch. Doing expectations vs reality and then why you should be developing for it.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:40 pm |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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I bought the Amazon Fire TV, the quality is better than my Core i7 Windows PC... The browser player is just woeful.
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:43 am |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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 |  |  |  | ProfessorF wrote: As you point out, they're the spiritual successors of all sorts of people who got into a boat and set sail for pastures unknown. And a lot of those parties didn't end well. Space is a really nasty, terribly unpleasant place to be in all sorts of ways. There's the temperature fluctuations, radiation, high speed microparticles, the dust (moon dust certainly isn't good for you and it gets everywhere) probably means that any sealed environment probably won't stay that way indefinitely. Look at the effect it's had on the wheels of the rover. Then there's the sand storms. You'd really hope to be staying indoors for as long as possible. Call me cowardly, but dropping dead from old age appeals much more. |  |  |  |  |
You really should read "The Martian" from Andy Wier. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Martian-Andy-We ... he+martian
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:48 am |
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paulzolo
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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I got a reply - the trees wee dying and needed taking down. Replacements will be planted. Between sending the email and getting a reply, one of our opportunistic Lib Dem councillors started Tweeting about it. When I got the reply, I tweeted a summary of what was said, only for him to say that he wanted to tweet about it at lunchtime. Tough - it was my question to the council, not his. Clearly he felt I he had some kind of entitlement to the subject.
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:07 am |
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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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Anyone know why I can't browse the forums from my phone in either Chrome or Safari? The home page loads, but the forums won't. Most odd.
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Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:28 am |
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pcernie
Legend
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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_________________Plain English advice on everything money, purchase and service related:
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/
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Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:30 am |
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saspro
Site Admin
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:53 pm Posts: 8603 Location: location, location
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That's very strange.
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Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:34 am |
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pcernie
Legend
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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I've cleared the cache, cookies, the works. Yet using the same Android browser (Boat) it works on my tablet no problem.
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Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:58 am |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Internet Explorer on Windows 8 (desktop and modern) as well.
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Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:48 pm |
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brataccas2
Has a life
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:12 pm Posts: 74
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im having a very similar problem hence the new account, I tried mobile phone, I tried Internet Explorer, firefox and chrome and the forums just do not load on any, yet it works fine on this new account I made, maybe its a post count issue 
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Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:34 pm |
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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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I eventually got a 500 server error last night. Fine from the desktop obviously.
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Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:12 am |
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AlunD
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:12 am Posts: 7011 Location: Wiltshire
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+ 2 very odd. still happening to
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Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:57 am |
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ProfessorF
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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I'm wondering if this is to do with the previous redirect hack we had where the 'UN' were demanding our money?
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Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:32 pm |
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