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pcernie
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Tight gits you Scots 
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:39 pm |
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brataccas
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true that, ive just made about £700 on ebay and I feel even more tightfisted 
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:55 pm |
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pcernie
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I'd say there was nothing wrong with that if I didn't know about your spending habits 
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:57 pm |
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brataccas
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all my purchases are legit and normal  Ill be buying this tbh. http://ww2relicsandcollectables.co.uk/s ... k-29-x-45/sick of the paint in my walls and cba with painting so Im gonna cover it all up with this *cough* hindu flag *cough*
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:59 pm |
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pcernie
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That's precisely what I was talking about 
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:03 am |
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brataccas
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maybe im just a fan of a certain father ted episode ¬¬
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:13 am |
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pcernie
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Yes, of course 
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:19 am |
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brataccas
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ProfessorF
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http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.com/2012/02/full-story-of-camerons-visit-to-nhs.html |  |  |  | Quote: The full story of Cameron's visit to NHS Hospital, with new confirmation from a visitor, patient & journalist. As many of you reading this will know, I published various details of the Prime Minister's Wednesday visit to the Newcastle Royal Victoria Infirmary on this site over the last couple of days. What I now intend to do is talk you through a chronology of what happened that day.
News of the Prime Minister's Wednesday visit emerged the night before, when Conservative Central Office announced that the PM would be making a high profile visit to a hospital in the NE to a) bolster support for his NHS reforms & b) raise the importance of the damage binge drinking is doing. It was heavily trailed by the Murdoch press (see here for example). Two of my sources, privately, tell me that the staff were not informed of the PM's intended visit. Publicly, a governor of a Foundation Trust @RichardBlogger confirmed that this has happened before, where visits by the PM to his hospital were not even confirmed or cleared with the Board of Governors. In addition, @Adrian_Pearson, who is a chief correspondent at several North East newspapers, confirmed through a series of tweets in advance of the PM's visit that it was all very top secret because the last time the PM had visited there were protests (I do not recall those protests being reported do you?).
When Cameron arrived at the hospital journalist @Adrian_Pearson can also confirm that the journalists were 'locked [sic]' in a waiting room. They were not allowed to accompany the Prime Minister as he met staff in Newcastle RVI (check Adrian's tweets for confirmation). In addition, Omar Oakes, a journalist from the Wimbledon Guardian who tweets as @OmarOakes confirmed that the PM did not allow journalists to accompany him meeting staff & patients when he visited Kingston NHS Hospital in April 2010 with Zac Goldsmith. You can see footage of Cameron's visit to Kingston here (at this link). Now, several have defended this practice of pre-emptive censorship as normal procedure for a PM, but I can prove that it is not. Here is footage (see link) of Prime Minister Gordon Brown's visit to the exact same hospital as Cameron in 2007. As you can see from that footage the then Labour PM was perfectly happy to let journalists see him meet staff. So, we can publicly confirm that journalists are pre-emptively censored & we can also confirm that this is not normal procedure. We can also confirm from past experiences, that Cameron's visits are not always announced to staff, or even governors, in advance. From the video of the Kingston visit you can also see that Cameron was reduced to giving his interview in a back corridor.
Now, what happened upon David Cameron's entry into the hospital itself, was until now, difficult to publicly confirm. 4 staff members have made their stories known privately but all are reluctant to come forward because they fear for their jobs. However, we do have the public account of a visitor to the hospital that day, and the account of a patient whose brother contacted me to give me an update on what went on at the hospital. It makes for interesting reading. My private sources tell me the Prime Minister got a bad reception. Much of the staff ignored him for his entire visit and he had to be closely guarded by police security. A young visitor Alexander Hay, who can be followed at @Alex_Hay tweeted about the Prime Minister's visit real time. He stated that he heard a nurse say to the PM "'I am vehemently opposed to reforms they're bad for patients and bad for care". This cannot be verified by a journalist because they were locked in a room. But two further sources further reveal that the PM received a verbal volley from one staff member who had to be 'led away'. I am told that that staff member is facing disciplinary action. A senior NE Health Source was contacted last night by a health campaigner for an update of events that day, the reply stated the following, "I heard it went badly, that is all I can say".
Crucially, it was revealed to me late last night, by the brother of a patient, that one of the patients, his sister, was asked to remain in her hospital bed by a senior nurse when she buzzed herself out to go get her routine coffee. It is a procedural request that each patient at RVI receives prior permission to get their morning coffee. In this case the nurse cited security reasons, and the fact that the PM was on the ward, as the reason for requesting that the patient delay her morning coffee. The patient's brother did reveal this to me publicly (and then in a longer email) but I would ask that until the patient is fully recovered that her health difficulties are respected.
Reporting of the actual event was seriously below par. If we contrast the Sky News trailer that I linked at the start to the actual interview covered by the BBC afterwards, the contrast is stark (see BBC's report here). You can see from this coverage that the PM is not shown in contact with any staff members or patients. The PM received close police protection for his entire visit and was met by the hospital matron whom I do not wish to name. In addition, it has been stated by several sources that many staff just point blank refused to recognise his presence. Much of the anger from staff that day centred upon them not being informed of the PM's visit.
So we can confirm that the PM's walkabout was limited. We can reveal that nurses did indeed give him a hostile reception. We can confirm that he was reduced to giving a rather bland interview detached from staff and patients because his reception was so hostile. If you are in any doubt about how untoward all of this is, then I simply ask you to examine previous visits by other PMs to hospitals such as the one I have linked above.
The questions that remain outstanding are this, what was the extent of the verbal abuse directed at the PM? Why in a democracy are our press denied reporting the interaction of a PM with health staff a week before one of the most crucial votes in the NHS's history? If the PM choreographs all visits in this way, how are we, the public, ever supposed to make a judgement of him as a person, interacting with real people? Doesn't it seem wrong that patients be confined to their beds for the Prime Minister's security? Why does Cameron's team not see it fit to clear his visits through the normal procedures? Has the PM lost the entire faith of the medical profession that he is reduced to locking journalists in rooms and being shielded from contact with patients? What worries me the most is that we would know none of this if I was not prepared to dig. I am now in the sad situation of being contacted by journalists who were actually locked in the RVI waiting room that day, as they seek to determine what happened in the hospital they were in the day the PM visited. Is this the openness and transparency the Prime Minister promised? In light of this is anyone surprised that he won't publish the NHS Risk Register? |  |  |  |  |
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:32 am |
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HeatherKay
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It says a lot about the Tories, doesn't it? Pushing through ideological "reforms" that were never in their election manifesto, and then getting upset when someone has the temerity to stand up to them.
Bunch of [expletive deleted]! And their fibdem lackeys! To think I voted for Clegg and his bunch of hypocrites.
I wonder when we're going to rise up and turn on them. Actually, I think the population as a whole is being so cowed by the whole austerity shenanigans we daren't raise our voices for fear of being picked on next. Welcome to Victorian Britain 2.0.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:45 am |
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ProfessorF
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Why a Nazi flag instead of the Union flag? Why the flag of a defeated enemy? Damn, I really should put money on the odds of Bratty turning up on the news one day...
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:12 pm |
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paulzolo
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I am surprised that we haven't had the notion of workhouses being raised. The unemployed and sick can quite easily be housed in one while they work their way out of their situation. If you can knit, you can sew mail bags. I'm expecting debtors' gaols to appear next, though it seems that being in debt is now in the national interest, so maybe we need gaols to house those people with savings that exceed their debts, charging a sum for accommodation until the imbalance is redressed. And, Hev, expect hulks in the Thames estury housing convicts.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:12 pm |
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brataccas
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I like the colours 
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belchingmatt
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That's Dirch Passer, a very famous Danish actor. I've seen him in quite a few films over the last couple of months and he'd have been right at home in the Carry On films. 
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:29 pm |
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brataccas
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[quote="belchingmatt"] That's Dirch Passer, a very famous Danish actor. I've seen him in quite a few films over the last couple of months and he'd have been right at home in the Carry On films.  hvad fanden?  taller du dansk? 
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