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paulzolo
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In summary: Hollywood likes making genre films and films based on TV because it guarantees bums on seats. Don’t expect anything new during the recession either. It will get even more generic. http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/11421165
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:30 am |
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Amnesia10
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Well the studios are finding funding harder than ever because of the financial crisis, and so are playing safe. It had to happen. Film franchises are also a safe bet as far as getting bums on seats.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:16 am |
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HeatherKay
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It strikes me the studios were playing safe a long time before the "credit crunch" appeared.
Bean counters would never have allowed Metropolis or Gone With The Wind or Blade Runner to be made.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:35 am |
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timark_uk
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The bean counters very nearly closed Blade Runner down for good. It was only Ridley Scott for the most part that kept the project alive, and it was a massive cinematic flop upon it's initial release. Mark
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:43 am |
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HeatherKay
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Which kind of makes my point. Hollywood built its whole reputation on being a dream factory. Without that element of risk, we end up with the generic mix of CGI and impossible explosions we get now. I can't be bothered about going to see a movie in the cinema these days. There don't seem to be any film actually being made that I would want to watch. I may catch one or two on the telly later, even go as far as buying the DVD, but going to see it on the big screen? Nah.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:48 am |
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timark_uk
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Which reinforces the point I was making. (8+D Without the risks we wouldn't now have films that are benchmarks for cinematic excellence. I'd say the last Hollywood film I saw that could even possibly fall in to this category would be Moon. It cost $5 million to make and made just over $9 million at the box office. Now I'd call that a good return, but I'm not sure Hollywood would. Mark
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:54 am |
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Amnesia10
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Is that before or after Hollywood accounting? 
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:09 am |
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paulzolo
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All losses are put against Babylon 5, which made a staggering large pile of money, but was never profitable due to this silly practice.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:11 am |
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pcernie
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How will we know the difference? 
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:14 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Yes the writer said that he was billed for some loss in the Congo or other. 
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timark_uk
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:55 pm |
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paulzolo
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 |  |  |  | Quote: Hollywood accounting is not limited to movies. An example is the Warner Bros. television series Babylon 5 created by J. Michael Straczynski. Straczynski, who wrote 90% of the episodes in addition to producing the show, would receive a generous cut of profits if not for Hollywood accounting. The series, which was profitable in each of its five seasons from 1993–1998, has garnered more than US$1 billion for Warner Bros., most recently US$500 million in DVD sales alone. But in the last profit statement given to Straczynski, Warner Bros. claimed the property was $80 million in debt. "Basically," says Straczynski, "by the terms of my contract, if a set on a WB movie burns down in Botswana, they can charge it against B5's profits. |  |  |  |  |
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:29 pm |
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timark_uk
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That's scandalous.
Mark
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:33 pm |
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ProfessorF
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But by no means unique.
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:59 pm |
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