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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10272286.stmGod only knows what Prescott buggered in his time Between Gordon as Chancellor and then PM, Labour had plenty of warnings from a multitude of sources and did very little when it would have mattered, far as I can tell 
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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The bankers did mess up all the worlds economies except those where the local central bank stopped them from getting into fancy sectors. The root of the problem was the deregulation in the early eighties both here and the US, though Labour failed to stand up to the banks and ensure that regulation worked. They were more interested in keeping the city in support of Labour. Gordon's mistake was to split bank regulation. The civil servants were responsible for the failure of Northern Rock because they were simply not inspecting the bank enough and then when there were problems they did not act fast enough.
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Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:17 pm |
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mikepgood
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:23 pm Posts: 710
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To be honest I think it was all of us. Bankers politicians and a large number of us the public, who borrowed too much and bought too much, and didn't save enough. And didn't see the spiral ending in a dip/recession,as it always has before.
After the third of fourth time it happens you get cautious.
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Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:49 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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Unfortunately the wise die and the younger naive generations will restart the cycle.
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Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:53 pm |
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jonlumb
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:44 pm Posts: 4141 Location: Exeter
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I'd be interested to know whow the big winners were out of this crash, in much the same way that what's-his-face reputedly made a billion dollars on Black Wednesday during the Conservative years. I am aware of the odd fund that got vast quantities of RBS shares when they were ridiculously low priced, but nothing more than that.
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Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:57 pm |
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koli
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:12 pm Posts: 1171
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Is it just me who finds word "bugger" offensive? Because to me he said this: "bankers performed anal sex on the economy" or this: "economy took it up the arse from bankers" 
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Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:08 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Yes there are no single causes of the crisis. Governments creating a perfect environment for property and asset bubbles must take a big blame, but even then the banks demands reduced regulations. As you say excessive lending by the banks and insufficient saving is another. Though the government policy is to have even lower interest rates deterred saving. Though if you wanted to buy a home you were sucked into the bubble, you had no choice. Then banks were allowed to confuse customers with shoddy lending practices. I would like to see a mandatory "vanilla" products with very simple and clear terms. Twenty years ago credit card agreements could be printed on a double sided page. Now they are considerably longer and illegible to the average person. If "vanilla" credit cards were regulated in that the interest free payment period was 56 days and fees were fixed for all cards then the only difference would be the interest rates.
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Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:30 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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I think that's a pretty fair analogy, frankly...
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Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:52 pm |
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm Posts: 5048
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+1 Oh and some hedgefunds made a huge amount of cash predicting the banking crisis...
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