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Wales and Scotland and the "not screwing us in favour of England" (- a la Thatcher), tax powers for us would be nice.

The NHS

Restoring personal freedom - and not accusing every photographer of being an exploding kiddy-fiddler.

I'd like to see us take a more "Canadian" view of the various oil wars we seem to get involved in. An armed force to protect our own borders, but not everyone elses.

As for tuition fees, scrap them for worthwhile degrees such as those in the medical profession, biosciences and engineering. Other degrees like history, religion and especially law should attract larger fees - we have too many lawyers and their ambulance chasing is ruining our lives.

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As for tuition fees, scrap them for worthwhile degrees such as those in the medical profession, biosciences and engineering. Other degrees like history, religion and especially law should attract larger fees - we have too many lawyers and their ambulance chasing is ruining our lives.

I agree about the quality if degrees but maybe we should slash the numbers actually taking degrees. They are not the same as one from twenty years ago, except for say Oxbridge. History is an important subject though maybe an option is that teachers who do a seven to ten year contract get their degrees paid for.

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Jim, I agree with most of what you say, but:
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  • Choice of schools to be restricted to families with a household income below £15k.
  • Higher earning families to have their school places allotted by lottery


Why would you do that? Every adult wants the chance for their kid to go to the best school possible. Everyone should be given an equal chance, with those people in catchment areas getting priorities. If it's about schools going to kids with rich parents, then make it so that school can't get details about parents income until after the kid has been accepted into the school.

No it's about rich middle class families having the financial means to work the system. What parental choice really means is choice for those who can afford it. If you have to live in a certain area to get in a certain school, higher-earning families move to that area in order to get their children into that certain school. This forces house prices up and shuts out poorer families from the market.

The idea behind giving everyone the same choice is all well and good, but all it does is ensure that the best school places go to the richest families whilst the poorest families, usually in inner cities and on sink estates, get stuck with the leftovers. You end up with the situation as at present where educational standards correlate with household income. This just serves to entrench the already shameful divide between rich and poor. My idea would mean that the poorest children get a chance to go to a better school and, hopefully, break the cycle of poverty.

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The idea behind giving everyone the same choice is all well and good, but all it does is ensure that the best school places go to the richest families whilst the poorest families, usually in inner cities and on sink estates, get stuck with the leftovers. You end up with the situation as at present where educational standards correlate with household income. This just serves to entrench the already shameful divide between rich and poor. My idea would mean that the poorest children get a chance to go to a better school and, hopefully, break the cycle of poverty.

Maybe the choice should be inverted. With the lowest incomes getting first choice with the richest getting last choice and either opting for private schools or extra tuition. though you would get the wealthiest dropping their incomes to get best choice and then recovering that income through offshore trusts and bonuses.

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forquare1 wrote:
Jim, I agree with most of what you say, but:
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  • Choice of schools to be restricted to families with a household income below £15k.
  • Higher earning families to have their school places allotted by lottery


Why would you do that? Every adult wants the chance for their kid to go to the best school possible. Everyone should be given an equal chance, with those people in catchment areas getting priorities. If it's about schools going to kids with rich parents, then make it so that school can't get details about parents income until after the kid has been accepted into the school.

No it's about rich middle class families having the financial means to work the system. What parental choice really means is choice for those who can afford it. If you have to live in a certain area to get in a certain school, higher-earning families move to that area in order to get their children into that certain school. This forces house prices up and shuts out poorer families from the market.

The idea behind giving everyone the same choice is all well and good, but all it does is ensure that the best school places go to the richest families whilst the poorest families, usually in inner cities and on sink estates, get stuck with the leftovers. You end up with the situation as at present where educational standards correlate with household income. This just serves to entrench the already shameful divide between rich and poor. My idea would mean that the poorest children get a chance to go to a better school and, hopefully, break the cycle of poverty.


Better schools don't make better children, or less poor ones. It's the culture and society.
Education is [LIFTED] in this country. We hand our kids over to people we don't know for at least 11 years, probably longer, then just trust they're doing the right thing for our kids. Choice of school is a minor consideration in that kind of picture.

But that's not my important issue, because nobody will campaign on it and nobody will change it.


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Sod off. That DNA is mine and unless I've done anything wrong the State has no right to go collecting my DNA.
I think it's a good thing providing is only used for crime prevention. Maybe not for everyone, but for anyone charged with a crime (yes, just charged, there's often no smoke without fire) and any FAILED asylum seeker (so they can easily be stopped if they try to get in a second time) it's a good thing.

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Actually, I'll vote for whoever makes fuel cheaper. As they don't appear to be bothered about the road system anyway, there shouldn't be a noticeable drop in standards.

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Actually, I'll vote for whoever makes fuel cheaper. As they don't appear to be bothered about the road system anyway, there shouldn't be a noticeable drop in standards.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Tories or Lib Dems promised to freezer fuel duty. That would be one up on Labour as they're still planning to add 2p a litre by the end of the year.

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I think that they will keep the fuel duty as it raises money and is a green tax.

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I'll vote for whoever promises to cease raping my wallet quite so much. I'm a student FFS.

Education *is* crap, but one solution to that is bring back corporal punishment and harden up the teachers. So one mouthy 8-year-old chav doesn't screw things up for everyone. Just give the teachers the right to give them a good clip round the ear already. Didn't do me any harm. Would help if the teachers knew what they were talking about, too. :x

Lev: I can't agree with you on the DNA front. If you're convicted, then fair play. Depending on the nature of the crime, a permanent place on the database might be suitable. But not for the sake of being accused. Look at the amount of photographers arrested as terrorists, is that smoke with fire? I've been pulled for driving without a seatbelt and told that to argue the case, I had to take it to court. Would you have me on the DNA database for that? (I was wearing my seatbelt, before anybody asks. And I still had to pay the sodding £30 fine. :evil: )

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I think a promise to scrap our so-called "independent" nuclear deterrent would be nice. We can't afford to run it, we can't afford to replace it.

Just think: the best part of £100 billion will suddenly appear in the UK's exchequer. Wouldn't that help the recession and pay the deficit?

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I'll vote for whoever promises to cease raping my wallet quite so much. I'm a student FFS.

Unti we get a government who scrap all the consumption taxes which are extremely regressive anyway and add it to income tax you will have your wallet raped permanently. Sorry.

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Just think: the best part of £100 billion will suddenly appear in the UK's exchequer. Wouldn't that help the recession and pay the deficit?
Won't work. It's a good idea, so it'll be scrapped on sight. ;-)

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None of the parties are completely honest. House prices have fallen but still have a long way to go. Your standard of living will plummet but no one wants to hear that. The Tories will cut spending so much that services suffer, no matter what they promise. Labour will have to cut more than they claimed because so called efficiency savings are never enough. Your wealth was never really there, it was all supported by a mountain of debt and as you clear that debt either property prices crash again as people default. Then the government might be tempted to inflate the economy with inflation.

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None of the parties are completely honest. House prices have fallen but still have a long way to go. Your standard of living will plummet but no one wants to hear that. The Tories will cut spending so much that services suffer, no matter what they promise. Labour will have to cut more than they claimed because so called efficiency savings are never enough. Your wealth was never really there, it was all supported by a mountain of debt and as you clear that debt either property prices crash again as people default. Then the government might be tempted to inflate the economy with inflation.


Ooooooh! A healthy dose of reality. I especially like the bit about your wealth having never really been there. Somebody's looking beyond the surface. Well done that man.


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