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rustybucket
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From Ars TechnicaThe OS isn't complete 4 weeks before launch? Cripes! 
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pcernie
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Apple Newton boss: iPad just a big iPod touch |  |  |  | Quote: The former Apple executive who oversaw the demise of the Apple Newton thinks the Apple iPad is too big and lacks communication capabilities.
And whatever you do, don't tell Andreas Haas that the Apple iPod is a tablet.
"The iPad is not a tablet, it's another addendum to the iPhone, the iPod touch," said Haas, now the CEO of Axiotron. "It's the Newton reborn."
Haas, who left Apple in 2001, knows tablets: Axiotron sells conversion kits that transform MacBooks into pen-based tablets dubbed "Modbooks" that retail for $700 when the customer provides the notebook, $1,650 when they don't.
Haas also knows Newton. While the head of Apple's Newton Systems Group, he wound down Newton sales in Europe. But he kept the Newton fire stoked, and always thought there was room for a tablet based on the Mac.
Not that Apple could afford to dabble there. "I always wanted to see the pen come back," Haas said. "But the market niche is too small [for Apple]. At 2.5 percent of all portable systems, when you run the numbers of Mac laptops you get a ridiculously low number. Apple is just not going to do a tablet."
Which was why he came up with the Modbook, even though investors questioned the move. "Someone always asked, 'What if Apple does a tablet?' If they did, my business would go away. So I had to contend with this 800-pound gorilla in the room, that Apple could bring out a tablet."
Now that the iPad has been unveiled , Haas feels vindicated - and believes his company is safe. "It's not a tablet, it's an extension of the iPod touch," he contended, saying what many analysts and pundits had voiced the day Apple CEO Steve Jobs held up the new device.
"It has some new kinks, but generally speaking it's using the iPhone OS. It's more like a smartphone than a personal computer. It's the Newton reborn."
But the iPad's connection to the Newton, especially the last in the line of Apple personal data assistants (PDA), the 1997 MessagePad 2100 that Haas said was the best of the bunch, doesn't include some critical comparisons in Haas' mind. And that's where he has some words for his former employer.
"The iPad was exactly what I thought it would be for the last five years," said Haas. "It's a media pad, a media consumption device. It's not a tablet, it's not a media creation device. And it's a little too large."
Haas was hoping for something smaller, something closer to the 8-by-5-in. MessagePad 2100's dimensions. "I expected that Apple's pad would be in the 7-in. size," he said, primarily because of the power that a 10-in. LCD requires from a battery, a point made before the iPad's launch by others. "The Newton offered portability. This doesn't. I can't put it into my back pocket, like I might be able to do with something with a 7-in. screen."
It's possible, perhaps even likely, Haas said, that the iPad is only the first of a family of devices, a tactic that Apple typically turns to with products. The MacBook Pro line, he pointed out, ranges from notebooks with 13.3-in. screens to one with a 17-in. display. But out the gate, heft and bulk of the iPad was a disappointment.
"I'm also disappointed that I won't be able to replace my iPhone," Haas continued. "I have an iPhone and a MacBook Pro and a Modbook, but the iPad is not designed to replace either the Modbook or the MacBook Pro." It would have been better, Haas argued, if the iPad was able to replace a device rather than add yet another to the ones consumers carried.
Of course, some people will find the iPad a suitable replacement for, say, their notebooks, Haas acknowledged, citing his spouse as an example. "She has a work computer, but at home she does e-mail, consumes content, reads, browses the Web with her MacBook Air," he said.
The other wrong move by Apple with the iPad, Haas continued, was its lack of any communications capabilities. "What's missing most is the communications aspect. I was very surprised about that," he said. While he didn't expect that Apple's iPad would be a cell phone per se, the lack of a camera means that video chat is impossible. And it's unclear whether VoIP (voice over Internet Protocol) will be supported on the iPad via something like Skype.
"I think [the iPad] needs to be not only a media platform, but a communications platform," Haas said. "Of course, there could be a few things that Apple adds to the iPad before its [March ship date], something that would put the 'wow' into it."
Some have speculated that Apple will add a user-facing camera to the iPad, based on reports that the device's aluminum frame includes a cut out that's the same size as the on in the bezel of the MacBook, which does include a camera.
Even with its flaws, the iPad is a great move by Apple, said Haas. "It's a first step into this arena, to get people started thinking about how to consume media," he said.
"That's where Apple did the right thing," Haas said. "Dumbed down netbooks use the same type of OS as a more powerful notebook, but on underpowered hardware. Apple's providing the right-sized operating system on the right-sized hardware to do the right-sized tasks."
But it's not a tablet, and never will be. "I wouldn't say it's 'dumbed down'," said Haas, "but it is 'smarted out.'" |  |  |  |  |
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jonbwfc
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So basically the bloke really wanted them to remake the Newton. A device that they made a massive loss on, that (despite being quite good objectively) became an industry joke figure and helped bring Apple Comp to it's knees. And (most importantly) was part of the 'No Steve Jobs' era.
Good luck with that.
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Nick
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jonbwfc
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That's one of the worst photoshop mockup jobs I've seen in years. Look at right his hand fer cripe's sake.
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Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:28 am |
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jonbwfc
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From the firefox for meamo blog"We’ve decided to disable plugin (not to be confused with add-ons, which are supported) support for this release. The Adobe Flash plugin used on many sites degraded the performance of the browser to the point where it didn’t meet our standards." Flash is [LIFTED]. It may be everywhere but so was Cholera at one point. Get rid, as they say round these parts. Jon
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Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:31 am |
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ChurchCat
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If only a major hardware provider would take a stand something might be done, but what are the chances of that happening? 
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bobbdobbs
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Exclude the security screw ups Flash isnt bad it another case of what people have done with it. A good flash Application is good and bad one is awful
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Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:59 am |
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jonbwfc
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I must respectfully disagree. Many people have worked miracles with Flash but they're monumentally outnumbered by the people who have made things that are utterly awful. The signal to noise ratio is just so, so bad. And there are several problems with Flash that are down to the flash runtime (especially on anything other than Windows) which no amount of good coding on the part of the flash developer will solve. Jon
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rustybucket
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Couldn't agree more Flash made sense back in the days of Web 1.0 when static content was normal and animated content was sporadic as most. However these days content is vastly different; the vast majority of content is either animated or interactive. Non-static content has become critical to the full use of the internet. However the internet is supposed to be an open communications system; to have a very important part of it maintained by one private company is senseless. Flash is essentially one of the biggest vendor lock-ins ever. IMO Flash has served us pretty well up to now but if we're going to have a truly free internet, we need an open standard for video and interactive content so that everyone can join in, not just those who Adobe choose to support.
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big_D
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Exclude the security screw ups? Nearly every month, lately, brings another zero day vulnerability with the recommendation to disable Flash... Add in the fact that Flash is incredibly bloated, resource hungry and inefficient, you have a nightmare of a system. It kills the desktop machines at work, and they have more memory and a faster processor than the iPad (1.2Ghz Athlon, with 512MB RAM). On a dual or quad core machine with lots of RAM, it might be usable, but on a mobile device or an older desktop, it is just a liability.
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pcernie
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Damn near anything I've used from Adobe was pretty much a system killer, one way or another 
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HeatherKay
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Oh I don't know. Acrobat isn't so bad. Oh, wait a minute... Actually, Acrobat is another app that's suffered from feature creep in the past few years. I try to avoid using it as often as I can, and I certainly disable the browser plugins. Speaking from daily experience, InDesign and Photoshop are pretty reliable. Illustrator, though, can be a bag of hurt, especially if you've left it idle for any length of time and it thinks you're ignoring it.
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Paul1965
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