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the wife had just told me I need to keep it to use as a server


Are you 100% she said that? It wasn't more like?

JV - I might keep the old PC to use as a server
MrsV: Do whatever you like
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100% certain. This is the conversation, which took place in the car.

JV: I've been thinking... it might be a good idea to sell the current PC to try and raise some funds for the next one.
MrsV: You need to keep the old one, to set up as a server. That's why we bought it, wasn't it? Plus it's, like, ten years old. You wouldn't get anything for it.
JV: Fair enough.

She let's me do what I want when it comes to PC / Tech related stuff, because she trusts me not to buy crap that will need replacing after a couple of years.

This is why I'm asking for advice from you guys... because I trust your knowledge and judgement.

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This is why I'm asking for advice from you guys... because I trust your knowledge and judgement.

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OK, so all we need to do is find a half African, half Chinese, half Asian, gay, one eyed, wheelchair bound dwarf with tourettes and a lisp, and a st st stutter and we could make the best panel show ever.


Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:33 am
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Update time: Well, more of a non-update really, but...

I had £300 put aside for this build, which has now been used as a deposit on a new bed. OK, that was my idea, as the old one is nearly 13 years old and the mattress isn't helping either one of us in the "bad joints" department, (no cannabis jokes, please) but I am now wondering:

I want a PC that is as future proof as possible, but do I need a core i7?

Would a core i5 do the biz, or maybe even an AMD processor? I don't have any preference between Intel and AMD, as long as the PC does what it has to and quickly, and I will hopefully be able to use the next version of Windows, (somethng which my current PC failed on, quite miserably)

What do you guys think? Core i5, i& or AMD, and if so which one?

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i5 is doing just fine here, I can run plenty large virtual networks and have no fear whatsoever of future versions of Windows. I'm sure it would be ok for most video work, but I am not in any position to test that claim.


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The thing that is confusing me about the Intel chips is that there seems to be about £50 difference between the i5 and i7 chips. Am I missing something really obvious, because for the sake of 50 quid I'd take the i7.

I must be missing something that's fairly obvious to everyone else, right? :?

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The thing that is confusing me about the Intel chips is that there seems to be about £50 difference between the i5 and i7 chips. Am I missing something really obvious, because for the sake of 50 quid I'd take the i7.

I must be missing something that's fairly obvious to everyone else, right? :?

Which i5 and i7 chips are you compairing

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Check number of cores and hyperthreading, also check turbo capabilty/ speed.

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It appears that I may well have been dreaming, as the difference is slightly over £50 :roll:

I've pretty much decided against the AMD chips, as everything I've read suggests that they're not anywhere near as good as the Intel CPUs.

Back to the drawing board...

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OK, I'm now looking at a core i5 setup... how's this for a first attempt?

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I haven't put a few components on there... I don't need a monitor, hard drive, anything optical, keyboards/mice, etc.

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Horrible PSU there, I'd avoid it like the plague

You can save £20 removing Scansure and postage (as you can get it on Hexus and possibly Bit Tech)

You can also get higher speed RAM for £2 more

Alternative system

That one is £25 more than what you have but the PSU will last a lot longer (not to mention be more efficient so will save on the leccy bill ;))

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Agree about the psu, but I forgot to mention that I'll be picking everything up so the delivery costs can be ignored as can scansure. I'll have a look at the alternate system when I get to work and reply then, but for now, thanks. :-)

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Ok, I've had a look and it looks good. One question though. Is there any reason you choose the motherboard? I though that Asus were meant to be the best, or is that information outdated?

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Ok, I've had a look and it looks good. One question though. Is there any reason you choose the motherboard? I though that Asus were meant to be the best, or is that information outdated?

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It's 6 and 2 3's to me really now, I went from Gigabyte (P35 chipsets) to Asus (P45 chipsets) and then back to Gigabyte (Z77 now I think), if you aren't overclocking (and on that CPU you won't really be able to) the performance difference will really be minimal and to me they are just as good now. In terms of features ASRock offer a waterproof motherboard but it's a useless feature to 90-99% of builders unless you are running a custom water cooling loop. The Asus offers customising fan speeds (which you can do anyway) and the Gigabyte offers USB3.0 charging while turned off (but with an active PSU obviously). I know which I find the more useful feature (neither but at a push the charging)

It's also on the approved list if you fancied a foray into a Hackintosh at a later date ;)
http://www.tonymacx86.com/405-building- ... budget_atx

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Hadn't thought of that. Sounds good to me... Better get saving! Thanks, Fin. :-)

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Cheap PSU for the build
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/450w-sea ... r-warranty

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