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Author:  snowyweston [ Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Budget "all-purpose-yet-Revit-friendly" laptop

So I've found myself this evening pouring through the bewildering world of laptop shopping, simply because I can't say no to friends when they need a bit of advice. :rolleyes:

*First things first, Revit = a BIM software tool. Think Autocad. But in 3D. And a LOT cleverer. And A LOT heavier on CPU & RAM (but not, oddly on GPU)


Thankfully, they'd done some looking themselves, and found THIS SAMSUNG which (to me) looks fairly reasonable - given i5's turbo features (if we're being bias toward CPUs for Revit friendliness)

But I've recently started getting lured into reccomending Lenovo laptops because of their much praised quality and have found THIS ONE - with the (apparently) comparable i3-230M.


But perhaps we're both well off the mark? :?


What gets me is the seemingly infinite variances in laptop specs. - it really does take the fun out of shopping (unlike the Lego-like "this CPU socket for this motherboard, for this RAM" pairing game of full-size machines) - so, just to give you an idea, some other ones I've been juggling:

AN ACER
A SECOND LENOVO
AN ASUS
AND OH LOOK, ANOTHER LENOVO
:roll:

There's no brand loyality, desire to game or have masses of storage - but there is a desire to stay fairly portable, have a 15" screen (Matte if at all possible) with a £500 (give or take) budget... Anyone been looking at, or know off hand, any suitable alternatives?
;)

Author:  lacloss [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:08 am ]
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Have a look at this site ,I was thinking of getting this one .http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/HP_ProBook_4320s_1066236.html

Author:  big_D [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:06 am ]
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How reliant is it on OpenGL? If it needs decent OpenGL power / support, then you need to look at workstation class laptops, which puts you in a totally different class of laptop. :( (Mobile FireGL or Mobile Quadro)

I'd always go for a ThinkPad, if the bugdet is there. They are boring, but well built, reliable and decent performance.

My gf's oldest brother bought a Samsung last year, but the glossy case finish means it looks old and shabby very quickly. The new one doesn't look as glossy, so might be ok.

Author:  rustybucket [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Budget "all-purpose-yet-Revit-friendly" laptop

big_D wrote:
How reliant is it on OpenGL? If it needs decent OpenGL power / support, then you need to look at workstation class laptops, which puts you in a totally different class of laptop. :( (Mobile FireGL or Mobile Quadro)

I'd always go for a ThinkPad, if the bugdet is there. They are boring, but well built, reliable and decent performance.

I was just about to post pretty much exactly this.

I don't know about Revit, but if it's anything like Catia, you're going to need a beast

Author:  okenobi [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:17 pm ]
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I think given the software reqs, the budget is a little low.

You'll want an i5 really, i3's too slow for that kind of work, with an i7 and 8gig of RAM preferable. That easily puts you in the £1000 area before you look at anything else.

But does it HAVE to be a laptop? Surely the use of a decent screen and proper desk (both of which I'm sure you already have) would be preferable for work?

Author:  snowyweston [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:55 pm ]
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Thankfully, Autodesk have abandoned OpenGL and gone all DirectX ! :D

Author:  snowyweston [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:00 pm ]
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big_D wrote:
How reliant is it on OpenGL?

rustybucket wrote:
if it's anything like Catia, you're going to need a beast


Thankfully it's not, Autodesk have abandoned OpenGL gone DirectX, and have thrown all code (except rendering) at the CPU.

okenobi wrote:
I think given the software reqs, the budget is a little low.
Alas, it is what it is...
okenobi wrote:
But does it HAVE to be a laptop?
Yup - she's got 7 months left and then is back off travelling on her return to NZ - so it's a definate no to a workstation.

Author:  okenobi [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:43 pm ]
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K, in which case, I believe you're looking at an i3 with HD3000 and maybe upping the RAM. I'll have another look tomorrow at some point.

Author:  veato [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:05 pm ]
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Nicola got one of these recently

Quote:
Intel Core i3 2310M


The Intel Core i3-2310M is a dual core processor for laptops. It is based on the Sandy Bridge architecture and offers Hyperthreading to handle 4 threads at once (for a better usage of the pipeline). Compared to the faster Core i5, the i3 does not offer the Turbo Boost technique for the CPU part and is therefore clocked at 2.1 GHz (max).

Sandy Bridge is the evolutionary successor of the Arrandale architecture. The most noteable improvements are the new 265Bit AVX instructions, the improved Turbo 2.0 and the integration of the graphics card into the 32nm CPU core.

Der i3-2310M offers an integrated graphics card ( Intel HD Graphics 3000) which is clearly faster then the older Intel HD Graphics in the Arrandale CPUs. As the new GPU is included in the CPU, it is also manufactured in 32nm and shares the fast level 3 cache with the CPU cores (using a new ring bus). In the 2310M it is clocked from 650-1100MHz (with Turbo Boost). The faster Sandy Bridge CPUs are clocked up to 1300 MHz (like the i5-2520M).

Furthermore, an improved dual-channel DDR3 memory controller is included on the CPU die that is used by the CPU and GPU part.

Due to the improved architecture, the average performance of the Core i3-2310M is higher than a similar clocked Arrandale Core i3 without Turbo Boost. In synthetic benchmarks, the performance was about on par with the faster clocked Core i5-430M (2.3-2.5 GHz) and therefore adequate for most applications.

Author:  okenobi [ Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:03 pm ]
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Dell InspironR comes in 15" at £549 inc.

That's an i5-2410 with 4gig of RAM, in a reasonably decent chassis. Res is on the low side and you won't care about the rest of it, but an i5 at that money is a result.

EDIT: If you can push it to £579 inc. you can get a slightly smaller HDD and a 1gig discrete GPU which is totally worth having IMHO.

Author:  snowyweston [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:57 am ]
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Cheers Oke / All

She went for the Samsung in the end, and is very pleased with it so far.

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