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Expenses 

How much fraud is reasonable?
None. Petty theft is pointless theft. 46%  46%  [ 12 ]
<£3 a year 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
<£10 a year 8%  8%  [ 2 ]
<£30 a year 19%  19%  [ 5 ]
<£100 a year 12%  12%  [ 3 ]
<£300 a year 8%  8%  [ 2 ]
<£1000 a year 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
<£3000 a year 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
<£9000 a year 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Over 9000 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 26

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Have you ever fiddled them? Maybe exaggerated a little? Or perhaps simply stolen stuff from work?

Added an extra mile to a travel claim?
Claimed for a meal that wasn't entirely "business"?
Claimed for something you later kept for yourself?
Nicked a Biro?
Fiddled the drinks machine?
Made a personal phone call?
Defrauded millions and fled to south America?

Where do you draw the line?

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Nothing for me. I'm the sad guy that asks managers before making personal phone calls.

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Can't say I've ever falsely claimed expenses, but I have had some box tape from a previous employer.
I voted for <£30

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Personal calls. Is all.

We get a fixed rate for our phones here anyway. Pay the same each month.

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OVER 9000!!!!111 :shock:

I work by the rule of "whatever you throw at me I keep". So... paperclips... bluetack... a brick.... anyone angry enough to chuck a car my way? :P

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At my last job (in a hotel), I used to help myself to food from the fridge fairly often (just the small stuff, eaten at work - I wasn't taking boxes of steak home or anything!). Personal calls, yes, and I also used to make coffee from the proper ground stuff, rather than the coffee-flavoured sludge from the staff machine. I considered that a perk of management, though, and nobody ever complained. :)

Now I'm in a much smaller company where things like that will make a difference, and the only thing I really take from here is bandwidth. In fact, when you consider all the little bits (bags of sugar, loo roll etc) that I take in to work to top up, plus the regular trips to the bank (in my own car) that I can't be bothered to claim for, they're probably ahead on the deal.


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Me? Nothing. It's not worth it. Except bandwidth, but that's only to keep you guys company ;) Awwww!

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Bit difficult for me to answer that as its my own company :D

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I said £30 as I do personal phone calls - although the boss hassaid they are allowed if in moderation so not sure if that counts as fiddelling

I have taken the odd pen / pencil / staple ( but not stapler) home over the years

Again although not fiddeling if I am eating out on expenses then will tend to go into somewhere a bit posher than I could normally afford to make maximum use of my allowances

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over 9K.. im planning on being a politician :lol: :lol:
fiddling is fiddling. The most I can say i've overclaimed was £5 in a previous company.

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I'm never questioned on expenses.
I usually round up the milage (as I'm too lazy to write the actual mileage down so use google maps), I get a few free beers etc.
I wouldn't class it as fraud though.

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Yeah, I've taken loads of stuff over the years. Voted £1k because I slipped! Meant £300. I'm not exactly sure, but it's more than a hundred quid in printing, phone calls, stationery, food and drink and the odd bit of mileage. If I felt like I was paid fairly and treated with respect, I'd probably show respect back. That is sadly not the case. Am I proud? No. Do I have a good excuse? No. But there it is.

When it comes to the MPs, they did it because they could. Maybe not everybody would, but I think most would if they could.


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When it comes to the MPs, they did it because they could. Maybe not everybody would, but I think most would if they could.


Agreed, in my case it's more how much I can, legally, do to minimise my tax bill. And I pay an independent account to keep me on line legally.

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Well I work in catering, therefore fiddling is rife.

At the end of the day, no matter how fresh the food is it HAS to be thrown away (food hygiene/health and safety bullcrap) so if there's a pint of milk left i'll take it rather than go out of my way to pick up a pint on the way home.

Same goes for bread, sandwiches, orange juice. Doesn't apply to the prewrapped stuff, just the food that we make on-board.

It's strictly not allowed, though everyone does it as it's a huge waste. If you're caught then you're in for a thrashing.

Same applied to my old job - I used to work for a bakers (Forfars, much like Greggs but more classy) and at the end of the day everything had to be chucked. My store-manager took as much of it as he could carry to a local homeless shelter on his way home but we all had to cover for him whenever middle management checked up on us. Oh and that's where I regularly got my bread from >.<

It is stealing, there's no two ways about it, and I know the consequences. But I can't for the life of my stand by whilst food is wasted. I was brought up by parents who saved EVERYTHING and never wasted a thing (Dad was a WW2 refugee on rations, mum had 6 sisters and two brothers). If it's going to be wasted i'll have it thankyouverymuch.

And i'm a student >.<


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Yeah, the waste food thing sucks. It's health and safety gone stupid, but they can't risk some homeless person or poor student suing them for food poisoning. One of my old customers was a bakery, and they often gave us cream cakes and stuff to "dispose of" for them.

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You can change it if you wish. I've just noticed the option, and enabled it.

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