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Author:  timark_uk [ Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:45 pm ]
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davrosG5 wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
They do have a CGI model, and as long as it doesn’t look like there’s a 100 watt lightbulb inside it ...
On the evidence so far, this doesn't look too good. Hopefully they can find a dimmer switch or something.
Neither of the two CGI modelled characters worked for me.
I totally understand why one was in there - even if it failed on a realism level, the other one not so much.
Both of them represented moments of nostalgia, but I really can't see this being utilised in any meaningful way for a full character arc in future instalments.

Mark
Author:  John_Vella [ Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:50 am ]
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paulzolo wrote:
timark_uk wrote:
What do you do when an actor in a beloved and integral decades old role has a major part in your next film that they have completed principal photography on and an even bigger role in the film after that which hasn't started production yet, dies?

Right now I would not like to be in the shoes of either Kathleen Kennedy or Colin Trevorrow.
Both of which have very tough decisions to make whilst still grieving.

Mark


They do have a CGI model, and as long as it doesn’t look like there’s a 100 watt lightbulb inside it ...


The Star Wars franchise does have a bit of history when it comes to characters appearing via hologram, so maybe that's a solution.
Author:  paulzolo [ Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:17 pm ]
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davrosG5 wrote:
we must be up to double figures of women who can talk in the SW universe now as well.


People hate this. Seriously, the vitriol being blurted out by morons on this very subject is mindnumbing.
Author:  paulzolo [ Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:22 pm ]
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John_Vella wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
timark_uk wrote:
What do you do when an actor in a beloved and integral decades old role has a major part in your next film that they have completed principal photography on and an even bigger role in the film after that which hasn't started production yet, dies?

Right now I would not like to be in the shoes of either Kathleen Kennedy or Colin Trevorrow.
Both of which have very tough decisions to make whilst still grieving.

Mark


They do have a CGI model, and as long as it doesn’t look like there’s a 100 watt lightbulb inside it ...


The Star Wars franchise does have a bit of history when it comes to characters appearing via hologram, so maybe that's a solution.


The hologram effect can hide a multitude of sins. I am reminded that in his review of this film, Mr Biffo correctly pointed out that a TV show (which will have a much lower budget per episode than a Star Wars film) managed to pull off a merging of old and new, get it seamless and believable. He was, of course, referring to Star Trek: DS9 episode Trials and Tribble-ations.

That or they’ll have to properly kill off Leia and introduce/revive a character that can step in. Bet they wish they hadn‘t killed off Han Solo now.
Author:  timark_uk [ Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:25 pm ]
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Recasting would be a lot less financially extravant compared to either a CG character or hologramming someone.
I would be very surprised if they killed her character off.

Mark
Author:  davrosG5 [ Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:43 pm ]
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timark_uk wrote:
Recasting would be a lot less financially extravant compared to either a CG character or hologramming someone.
I would be very surprised if they killed her character off.

Mark

But the wailing and teeth gnashing if they recast would be quite spectacular. Admittedly they'll be pilloried either way by a certain proportion of the fan base whatever they do.
Author:  timark_uk [ Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:08 pm ]
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davrosG5 wrote:
they'll be pilloried either way by a certain proportion of the fan base whatever they do.
Yep. Certainly not an easy decision to make, whatever they go with.

Mark
Author:  oceanicitl [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:20 am ]
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Apparently Hollywood stars are now rushing to protect their image so it can't be used as CGI after their deaths
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:22 am ]
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Didn't Robin williams already do this?
Author:  oceanicitl [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:36 am ]
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cloaked_wolf wrote:
Didn't Robin williams already do this?


He can't. He's dead.


Joking aside he did do it
Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:57 am ]
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Newsnight last night had a segment on this - discussing the issues behind using an actor’s likeness after they have died. Worth a watch in iPlayer.
Author:  oceanicitl [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:27 am ]
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paulzolo wrote:
Newsnight last night had a segment on this - discussing the issues behind using an actor’s likeness after they have died. Worth a watch in iPlayer.


Can't you just tell us the highlights? :)
Author:  jonlumb [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:45 am ]
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Finally got to see this last night with Oli. Both of us really quite enjoyed it. I remain on the fence regarding the CGI characters, the one you see more of seemed a more valid use, the second, rather fleeting appearance felt a lot more gratuitous imho.
Author:  timark_uk [ Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:55 am ]
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jonlumb wrote:
I remain on the fence regarding the CGI characters, the one you see more of seemed a more valid use, the second, rather fleeting appearance felt a lot more gratuitous imho.
The more fleeting one was personal approved by the person, the less fleeting one was approved by the person's estate.
It's not a particularly new phenomenon as it was apparently used in one of the Fast and Furious films with Paul Walkers character and it was also done in Gladiator and one of The Crow films.

It's also worth a mention that in Ep. IX Carrie Fisher was set to play an even larger role than what she does in Ep. VIII, I'm not sure if there's a virtual model of the person in her older years that could be utilised.

Mark
Author:  oceanicitl [ Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:05 am ]
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timark_uk wrote:
The more fleeting one was personal approved by the person


Personally* :roll:
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