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The government has narrowly avoided a defeat on its Customs Bill after agreeing to Brexiteers' demands to change its wording.

It twice survived by just three votes after a backlash from pro-EU Tories who accused Theresa May of "caving in" to the party's Eurosceptic MPs.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44854597

the EU will reject it which leads us back to no deal ...


Which leads us back to a second referendum .....

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The government has narrowly avoided a defeat on its Customs Bill after agreeing to Brexiteers' demands to change its wording.

It twice survived by just three votes after a backlash from pro-EU Tories who accused Theresa May of "caving in" to the party's Eurosceptic MPs.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44854597

the EU will reject it which leads us back to no deal ...


Which leads us back to a second referendum .....


no chance, thats the EU way, we are not going to be members of the EU for much longer.
not withstanding leave would win massively after the way the EU have played there game.

have you never considered why leave won the referendum even with massive (over) spending by Govt. to support the remain side, the BoE dire economic forecasts, the one who walks on water statement we would be back of a long queue for a US trade deal, doom and gloom by the treasury, forecasts of the up and coming apocalypse if we voted leave. but we still voted leave, we are leaving ...

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Vote Leave: Brexit campaign 'broke electoral law' in referendum
Brexit campaign group Vote Leave has been fined £61,000 and referred to the police after an Electoral Commission probe said it broke electoral law.

The watchdog said it exceeded its £7m spending limit by funnelling £675,315 through pro-Brexit youth group BeLeave.

The founder of BeLeave, Darren Grimes, has been fined £20,000 and reported to the police, along with Vote Leave official David Halsall.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44856992

The whole project is on very shaky grounds now. Police referrals indicate this is criminal matter now. The fine is nothing - they’ll get that back when the hedge funds are cashed in in April. The real punishment would be to annul the result, but that’s a political matter which our esteemed leaders will have to consider before they clear off on holiday four days early.

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Vote Leave: Brexit campaign 'broke electoral law' in referendum
Brexit campaign group Vote Leave has been fined £61,000 and referred to the police after an Electoral Commission probe said it broke electoral law.

The watchdog said it exceeded its £7m spending limit by funnelling £675,315 through pro-Brexit youth group BeLeave.

The founder of BeLeave, Darren Grimes, has been fined £20,000 and reported to the police, along with Vote Leave official David Halsall.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44856992

The whole project is on very shaky grounds now. Police referrals indicate this is criminal matter now. The fine is nothing - they’ll get that back when the hedge funds are cashed in in April. The real punishment would be to annul the result, but that’s a political matter which our esteemed leaders will have to consider before they clear off on holiday four days early.


a court case will open up all reverent evidence in regard to that case which will include evidence from the remain camp spending, especially on spending. this will be in open court, as stated a can of worms will be opened, just like the A50 court case. do you wish to go there, i do hope so ...

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no chance, thats the EU way, we are not going to be members of the EU for much longer.
not withstanding leave would win massively after the way the EU have played there game.



Then what do you have to fear? The government is split down the middle - the opposition don't know what to think.

Back to the country we go .....

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have you never considered why leave won the referendum .


Ha. Yes of course. There are many reasons.

1/ A huge bucket full of blatant lies, misdirection and racism.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-turkey-migrants-vote-leave-michael-gove-immigration-uk-eu-referendum-a8449766.html

2/ A large underclass who have been hammered by austerity (at the Conservatives insistence) being told that Brexit will makes their lives better (I refer you back to point 1)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/brexit-paul-krugman-zero-chance-britain-better-off-eu-leave-single-market-custom-union-exports-trade-a7965871.html

3/ Absolute rags of "Newspapers" which have been beating the drum for 30 years.

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4/ A political party full of entitled megalomaniacs with trust funds, inherited wealth and nothing to lose but plenty to gain laughing as the turkeys vote for Christmas.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/jacob-rees-mogg-line-huge-personal-windfall-britain-exits-single-market/07/02/

Shall I go on?

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no chance, thats the EU way, we are not going to be members of the EU for much longer.
not withstanding leave would win massively after the way the EU have played there game.



Then what do you have to fear? The government is split down the middle - the opposition don't know what to think.

Back to the country we go .....


because democracy has already spoken, which part of that do you fail to understand ...

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have you never considered why leave won the referendum .


Ha. Yes of course. There are many reasons.

1/ A huge bucket full of blatant lies, misdirection and racism.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-turkey-migrants-vote-leave-michael-gove-immigration-uk-eu-referendum-a8449766.html

2/ A large underclass who have been hammered by austerity (at the Conservatives insistence) being told that Brexit will makes their lives better (I refer you back to point 1)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/brexit-paul-krugman-zero-chance-britain-better-off-eu-leave-single-market-custom-union-exports-trade-a7965871.html

3/ Absolute rags of "Newspapers" which have been beating the drum for 30 years.

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4/ A political party full of entitled megalomaniacs with trust funds, inherited wealth and nothing to lose but plenty to gain laughing as the turkeys vote for Christmas.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/jacob-rees-mogg-line-huge-personal-windfall-britain-exits-single-market/07/02/

Shall I go on?


'have you never considered why leave won the referendum' answer ... we dont like being told what to bloody do.
but you wont understand that. sad very sad, remember Gina Miller ...

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OK, I'll go on - you didn't answer me so I'll assume yes:

5/ Because the bitter old Gammons don't like being told what to do - and F&ck what the younger generation wants:

https://fullfact.org/europe/how-did-young-people-vote-brexit-referendum/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo_iriamm3AIVDrftCh1hiQkpEAAYAiAAEgJ5MPD_BwE

6/ Because far too many people were complacent, believing that the status quo wouldn't change and their vote didnt matter:

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As before, shall i go on?

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because democracy has already spoken, which part of that do you fail to understand ...


Maybe you should look up "Parliamentary Democracy" in a dictionary ..

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The thing about a democracy is... the people are allowed to change their mind.

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you wont understand that. sad very sad, remember Gina Miller ...

I remember her well. She's the democrat who legitimately used the UK court system to test some points of law.
In doing so she enraged a number of knuckle draggers, including 4th Viscount St Davids who server prison time for offering £5000 for the first person to run her down.
I think he also said something along the lines of "send her back to her stinking jungle" or words to that effect.
The kind of people anyone would be proud to have on their side of the argument - right?

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As before, shall i go on?


please do, enthral me with your acumen.

ps. did you know we are leaving the EU ...

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As before, shall i go on?


please do, enthral me with your acumen.

ps. did you know we are leaving the EU ...


The Fat Lady is yet to sing.

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As before, shall i go on?


please do, enthral me with your acumen.

ps. did you know we are leaving the EU ...


The Fat Lady is yet to sing.


you are so right there, but you most probably wont like the tune ...

the EU have only two options on the table.
1. we remain, fully.
2. we are forced to leave, let me repeat that, forced to leave. there will not be done a deal.

so the lady sings, do you like the tune ...

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