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| Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Pie |
Discussion at lunch time. Meat covered by only a top layer of pasty - is it acceptable? What about the likes of fish pie, cottage pie and shepherd's pie? Pie or not pie? Or should the filling be encased in pastry? Define pie. To paraphrase this girl (clicky), "What is pie?" |
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| Author: | TheFrenchun [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pie |
I'd had: is open top pie a pie? (quiche etc) if I picture a pie, it's got pastry top and bottom and a dense meat or cheese filling that holds its shape when cut |
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| Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pie |
What about apple pie? Must it be savoury? |
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| Author: | oceanicitl [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pie |
I have deja vu. We've had this discussion before. |
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| Author: | TheFrenchun [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pie |
I remember Tim whinging about quiche not being pie now that you mention it. |
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| Author: | saspro [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pie |
Pie should be filling encased in pastry. Just pastry on the top is just a soup with a lid |
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| Author: | davrosG5 [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pie |
I would have said that a quiche is a sort of tart or flan rather than a pie. |
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| Author: | pcernie [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pie |
Pie should be delicious and dangerous to your health. |
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| Author: | big_D [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:01 am ] | |||||||||
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Exactly. If it isn't covered in pastry on all sides, it can't contend to be a pie... On the other hand, a Pasty, for example, isn't a pie in the traditional sense. |
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| Author: | jonbwfc [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pie |
Can we be specific and say that a pie has pastry case and a pastry lid? A pasty doesn't (all one piece) and, obviously, flans and arts don't either. And as for anyone who calls pizza a pie... |
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| Author: | okenobi [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:04 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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Why not? And what about calzone? |
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| Author: | pcernie [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pie |
'Pies are defined by their crusts.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pie Frankly, if it's baked and has a crust, somebody somewhere will call it a pie. |
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| Author: | timark_uk [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pie |
Quiche is not a pie. Flan is not a pie. Shepherd's pie is pie in name only, it is not really a pie. Similarly for fish pie. Mmm pie. Mark |
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| Author: | brataccas [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:33 pm ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Pie | |||||||||
is your kangaroo pouch a pie? |
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| Author: | rustybucket [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pie |
Pie: Lid, sides and base made of shortcrust pastry or hot water pastry and then baked Pudding: Lid, sides and base made of suet pastry and then steamed/boiled Tart: Sides and base made of shortcrust pastry then baked Flan: Base (and, optionally, sides) made of sponge then baked Topper: Lid made of shortcrust pastry then baked Cobbler: Lid made of cobble then baked Quiche is a tart and therefore not pie Flan is a flan and therefore not pie Shepherd's pie is definitely not pie Cottage pie is not a pie Fish pie is not a pie Pied flycatcher is not a pie Puff pastry is [LIFTED] and anything made from it is neither edible nor pie. Filo pastry is for starters and desserts Choux pastry is for profiteroles |
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