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cloaked_wolf
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Discussion at lunch time. Meat covered by only a top layer of pasty - is it acceptable? What about the likes of fish pie, cottage pie and shepherd's pie? Pie or not pie? Or should the filling be encased in pastry? Define pie. To paraphrase this girl ( clicky), "What is pie?" _________________ He fights for the users.
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TheFrenchun
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I'd had: is open top pie a pie? (quiche etc)
if I picture a pie, it's got pastry top and bottom and a dense meat or cheese filling that holds its shape when cut
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cloaked_wolf
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What about apple pie? Must it be savoury?
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oceanicitl
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I have deja vu. We've had this discussion before.
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TheFrenchun
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I remember Tim whinging about quiche not being pie now that you mention it.
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saspro
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Pie should be filling encased in pastry.
Just pastry on the top is just a soup with a lid
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davrosG5
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I would have said that a quiche is a sort of tart or flan rather than a pie.
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pcernie
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Pie should be delicious and dangerous to your health.
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big_D
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Exactly. If it isn't covered in pastry on all sides, it can't contend to be a pie... On the other hand, a Pasty, for example, isn't a pie in the traditional sense.
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jonbwfc
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Can we be specific and say that a pie has pastry case and a pastry lid? A pasty doesn't (all one piece) and, obviously, flans and arts don't either. And as for anyone who calls pizza a pie...
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okenobi
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Why not? And what about calzone?
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pcernie
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'Pies are defined by their crusts.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PieFrankly, if it's baked and has a crust, somebody somewhere will call it a pie. _________________Plain English advice on everything money, purchase and service related:
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timark_uk
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Quiche is not a pie.
Flan is not a pie.
Shepherd's pie is pie in name only, it is not really a pie.
Similarly for fish pie.
Mmm pie.
Mark
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brataccas
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is your kangaroo pouch a pie? _________________
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rustybucket
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Pie: Lid, sides and base made of shortcrust pastry or hot water pastry and then baked
Pudding: Lid, sides and base made of suet pastry and then steamed/boiled
Tart: Sides and base made of shortcrust pastry then baked
Flan: Base (and, optionally, sides) made of sponge then baked
Topper: Lid made of shortcrust pastry then baked
Cobbler: Lid made of cobble then baked
Quiche is a tart and therefore not pie
Flan is a flan and therefore not pie
Shepherd's pie is definitely not pie
Cottage pie is not a pie
Fish pie is not a pie
Pied flycatcher is not a pie
Puff pastry is [LIFTED] and anything made from it is neither edible nor pie.
Filo pastry is for starters and desserts
Choux pastry is for profiteroles
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