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Author:  pcernie [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:06 pm ]
Post subject:  UK needs four-day week to combat stress, says top doctor

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One of Britain's leading doctors has called for the country to switch to a four-day week to help combat high levels of work-related stress, let people spend more time with their families or exercising, and reduce unemployment.

Bringing the standard working week down from five to four days would also help address medical conditions, such as high blood pressure and the mental ill-health associated with overwork or lack of work, Prof John Ashton said.

The president of the UK Faculty of Public Health said the five-day week should be phased out to end what he called "a maldistribution of work" that is damaging many people's health.

"When you look at the way we lead our lives, the stress that people are under, the pressure on time and sickness absence, [work-related] mental health is clearly a major issue. We should be moving towards a four-day week because the problem we have in the world of work is you've got a proportion of the population who are working too hard and a proportion that haven't got jobs", Ashton said.

"We've got a maldistribution of work. The lunch-hour has gone; people just have a sandwich at their desk and carry on working," added the leader of the UK's 3,300 public-health experts working in the NHS, local government and academia.


http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014 ... top-doctor

I'd certainly take a pay cut for a four-day week!

Thoughts?

Author:  timark_uk [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:32 pm ]
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I am on a four day week.
Granted, those are 12hr shifts I'm doing, but it's still a four day week.

Mark

Author:  jonbwfc [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:35 pm ]
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Interesting related topic : research suggests stress makes us crave sugary foods.

Author:  TheFrenchun [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:37 pm ]
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timark_uk wrote:
I am on a four day week.
Granted, those are 12hr shifts I'm doing, but it's still a four day week.

Mark

Four night week surely ;)

I'd like to do 4 days, but i think I would end up doing just as much work but paid less. Currently average 1.5hrs unpaid overtime everyday


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Author:  timark_uk [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:46 pm ]
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TheFrenchun wrote:
timark_uk wrote:
I am on a four day week.
Granted, those are 12hr shifts I'm doing, but it's still a four day week.
Four night week surely ;)
Well, when I tend to stay on my work hours when not in work, your night becomes my day. (8+)

Mark

Author:  big_D [ Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:54 am ]
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TheFrenchun wrote:
timark_uk wrote:
I am on a four day week.
Granted, those are 12hr shifts I'm doing, but it's still a four day week.

Mark

Four night week surely ;)

I'd like to do 4 days, but i think I would end up doing just as much work but paid less. Currently average 1.5hrs unpaid overtime everyday


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Yep, and given that I've yet to take a holiday in the last 4 years, where the company hasn't called me to do some task, and often get called at the weekend to help sort something out - usually contacting the security company to let people into the building - I don't think I'd get much out of the extra day free.

My fiancé was on a 12 days on, 2 days off shift pattern for the last 4 years.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:30 am ]
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20% pay cut for 20% less work seems fair. Could people afford that? I doubt it.
0% pay cut for 20% less work. Could businesses afford that? I doubt it.

Author:  okenobi [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:38 am ]
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Try this out for an interesting take on capitalism: http://t.co/kQRvbbrlgr

The problem with a four day week is that there's no politcal (or more importantly - corporate) will to do anything.

Author:  TheFrenchun [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:47 am ]
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okenobi wrote:
Try this out for an interesting take on capitalism: http://t.co/kQRvbbrlgr

The problem with a four day week is that there's no politcal (or more importantly - corporate) will to do anything.

that's a really interesting article, thank you.

Author:  okenobi [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:51 am ]
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Your welcome. Blew my mind when I read it.

In the coming years, there are a lot of challenges we need to look at as a civilization. There are also likely to be many solutions that whilst making sense, will require a critical mass that simply isn't forthcoming. A $15 minimum wage is certainly one of those, in my opinion.

Author:  hifidelity2 [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:11 pm ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
20% pay cut for 20% less work seems fair. Could people afford that? I doubt it.
0% pay cut for 20% less work. Could businesses afford that? I doubt it.

Dont forget that you wont actually lose 20% take home income as you lose the top 20% at your top marginla tax rate so in reality esp if you are a 40% tax payer you only lose about 12% of take home income

Author:  jonbwfc [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:15 pm ]
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The thing about us businesspeople is that we love our customers rich and our employees poor. So for as long as there has been capitalism, capitalists have said the same thing about any effort to raise wages. We’ve had 75 years of complaints from big business—when the minimum wage was instituted, when women had to be paid equitable amounts, when child labor laws were created. Every time the capitalists said exactly the same thing in the same way: We’re all going to go bankrupt. I’ll have to close. I’ll have to lay everyone off. It hasn’t happened. In fact, the data show that when workers are better treated, business gets better. The naysayers are just wrong.

This. A million times this.

Author:  okenobi [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:42 pm ]
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Any ideas on how to do something about it, Jon?

Author:  brataccas [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:31 pm ]
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I work 10/11 days in a row and 4 days off, 4 day weeks are ridiculous, mayaswell be part time

Author:  ShockWaffle [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:27 pm ]
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okenobi wrote:
Try this out for an interesting take on capitalism: http://t.co/kQRvbbrlgr

Interesting, perhaps. Ignorant and self defeating though. You should be able to spot this from the fact that he claims there are "no counter examples. None." And then he cites one. That is a giveaway that you are not dealing with a competent theorist.

There are of course many counterexamples. It shouldn't take a great deal of sense to work out that if capitalism has mechanisms that drive increasing income disparities, those are likely to be offset against other mechanisms that counter it on a cyclical basis. If peasant rebellions and plutocratic self-denial are the only such mechanisms he can think of, he missed a lot of history lessons.

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