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Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:10 pm ]
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Okay so having had a chocolate poll, I've decided to do a biscuit poll. The problem with the biscuit poll is that there are many more varieties of the same thing so you might have a digestive biscuit made by McVitie's, by supermarket own brands and other versions. Clearly not all are the same but a digestive is very different from say a Rich Tea.

Hence, I've decided to go for a list of types of biscuits rather than anything brand-specific (unless there's a particular reason for doing so). Need help compiling a list. Please post your suggestions and I'll add them to the list. I'll accept anything that meets the definition of a biscuit. If you're not sure, as yourself whether you would have it with a cup of tea.

1. Plain Digestive
2. Malted Milk
3. Hob-nob
4. Chocolate hob-nob
5. Custard Cream
6. Bourbon
7. Fig rolls
8. Ginger nuts
9. Viennese fingers
10. Viennese swirls/whirls.
11. Jammie Dodgers
12. Party Rings
13. Rich Tea
14. Oat Crunch
15. Shortbread
16. Coconut rings
17. Pink wafer
18. Garibaldis
19. Milk chocolate digestive
20. Plain chocolate digestive
21. Dark chocolate digestive
22. Sports biscuits
23. Crunch Creams
24. Ginger Creams
25. Fruit shortcake
26. Chocolate caramel digestive
27. Happy face biscuit
28. Nice
29. Thin Arrowroot
30. Lemon puffs
31. TUC
32. Oreos
33. Cadbury Crunchie Biscuits
34. Lotus Caramelised Biscuit
35. Amaretti biscuits
36. Biscotti
37. Maryland chocolate chip
38. Maryland hazelnut & choc chip
39. Maryland triple choc
Author:  jonbwfc [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:15 pm ]
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Do we answer the Jaffa Cake question?
Author:  Zippy [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:21 pm ]
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It's a cake by definition

What about fig rolls and ginger nuts?
Author:  TheFrenchun [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:29 pm ]
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ooohh fig rolls :)

Viennese fingers
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:40 pm ]
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Zippy wrote:
What about fig rolls and ?

Fig rolls are levied as biscuits IIRC.
Author:  saspro [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:05 pm ]
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Jammie Dodgers
Party Rings?
Rich Tea
Oat Crunch
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:08 pm ]
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Zippy wrote:
It's a cake by definition

What about fig rolls and ginger nuts?

Not for tax purposes. Cakes are higher rated for VAT. Biscuits are considered staples so no VAT.

Quote:
Under UK tax rules, most traditional bakery products such as bread, cakes, flapjacks and Jaffa Cakes are free of VAT, but the tax is payable on cereal bars, shortbread and partly-coated or wholly-coated biscuits.


from

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7340101.stm
Author:  TheFrenchun [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:11 pm ]
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Nice.
shortbread
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:14 pm ]
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Oatmeal cookies
Author:  Zippy [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:16 pm ]
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Yes, but what they actually did was define a cake as something which starts out soft and gets hard when it's stale, and a biscuit as something which starts out hard and gets soft as it gets stale. McVities even proved it was a cake by making a 9inch one

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/vfoodmanual/vfood6260.htm The debate:

Quote:
The leading case on the borderline is that concerning Jaffa cakes: United Biscuits(LON/91/0160). Customs and Excise had accepted since the start of VAT that Jaffa cakes were zero-rated as cakes, but always had misgivings about whether this was correct. Following a review, the department reversed its view of the liability. Jaffa cakes were then ruled to be biscuits partly covered in chocolate and standard-rated: United Biscuits (as McVities, one of the largest manufacturers of Jaffa cakes) appealed against this decision. The Tribunal listed the factors it considered in coming to a decision as follows.

The product’s name was a minor consideration.
Ingredients:Cake can be made of widely differing ingredients, but Jaffa cakes were made of an egg, flour, and sugar mixture which was aerated on cooking and was the same as a traditional sponge cake. It was a thin batter rather than the thicker dough expected for a biscuit texture.
Cake would be expected to be soft and friable; biscuit would be expected to be crisp and able to be snapped. Jaffa cakes had the texture of sponge cake.
Size: Jaffa cakes were in size more like biscuits than cakes.
Packaging: Jaffa cakes were sold in packages more similar to biscuits than cakes.
Marketing: Jaffa cakes were generally displayed for sale with biscuits rather than cakes.
On going stale, a Jaffa cake goes hard like a cake rather than soft like a biscuit.
Jaffa cakes are presented as a snack, eaten with the fingers, whereas a cake may be more often expected to be eaten with a fork. They also appeal to children, who could eat one in a few mouthfuls rather like a sweet.
The sponge part of a Jaffa cake is a substantial part of the product in terms of bulk and texture when eaten.

Taking all these factors into account, Jaffa cakes had characteristics of both cakes and biscuits, but the tribunal thought they had enough characteristics of cakes to be accepted as such, and they were therefore zero-rated.
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:21 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Oatmeal cookies

Cookies are cookies and hence not biscuits.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:36 pm ]
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cloaked_wolf wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
Oatmeal cookies

Cookies are cookies and hence not biscuits.

Aren't cookies a sub set of biscuits?
Author:  Paul1965 [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:41 pm ]
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KitKat

And I think it would be best to have separate inclusions of milk and dark chocolate digestives. Dark FTW!
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:58 pm ]
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Cookies are something I would put in the same class as jaffa cakes - goes hard when stale, rather than soft.

Kitkats were in the Great Chocolate Poll at #14: clicky and hence do not qualify.
Author:  pcernie [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:03 pm ]
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TUC! And I mean the biscuits ;)
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