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Author:  pcernie [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:23 am ]
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-21411249

Cheeky gits :D

Author:  l3v1ck [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:54 am ]
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Dogs are smart, end of.

Author:  paulzolo [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:46 am ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
Dongs are smart, end of.


Sniggers.

Author:  JJW009 [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:54 am ]
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Dogs are people too.

Author:  timark_uk [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:57 am ]
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JJW009 wrote:
Dogs are people too.
Soylent Green is dogs?!?

Mark

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:39 pm ]
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timark_uk wrote:
JJW009 wrote:
Dogs are people too.
Soylent Green is dogs?!?

Mark

Future food safety scandal.

Author:  leeds_manc [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:16 pm ]
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It could just mean dogs feel instinctively safer taking anything at night, just as humans feel safer in the dark looking in rather than in the well lit room looking out. Doesn't mean we're viewing things from the burglar's perspective, just that we feel safer instinctively.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:28 pm ]
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leeds_manc wrote:
It could just mean dogs feel instinctively safer taking anything at night, just as humans feel safer in the dark looking in rather than in the well lit room looking out. Doesn't mean we're viewing things from the burglar's perspective, just that we feel safer instinctively.

They probably realise that we cannot see a thing in the dark as they will probably see us and smell us stumbling about. So they will probably take their chances stealing food as they will know that we cannot see them doing it.

Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:39 pm ]
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+1. I suspect it's not about "human" perspective but just behaviour. If it's dark, there's less threat of harm from the owner.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:14 pm ]
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cloaked_wolf wrote:
+1. I suspect it's not about "human" perspective but just behaviour. If it's dark, there's less threat of harm from the owner.

Well if very young humans to steal they will make up people who stole it not them. Dogs might have the same reaction, just that we cannot understand them well enough to realise that. Dogs also see us as part of the pack usually a higher rank than them so stealing food is a natural thing to do to improve their biological success. I would not go so far as to say that it was that dogs understand human perspectives without seeing the overall structure of the tests. It is humans who put anthropomorphic behaviour onto animals.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:16 pm ]
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Image

Author:  leeds_manc [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:17 pm ]
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They're just meme generator signs btw ;)

Author:  l3v1ck [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:21 pm ]
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leeds_manc wrote:
They're just meme generator signs btw ;)

I know, but it's mildly funny and quite apt for this thread.

Author:  ProfessorF [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:31 pm ]
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I don't think the whole thing is entirely implausible.
Humans have shaped dogs over thousands and thousands of years, countless generations, since we both realised it was mutually beneficial.
Is it out of the question that just as we've shaped their development, they've done the same to us? That perhaps they do indeed understand what we're about?

Author:  timark_uk [ Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:37 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Well if very young humans to steal they will make up people who stole it not them.
What the what?!?

Mark

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