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Author:  HeatherKay [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:11 pm ]
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Following on from a couple of Team Grumpy/Grammar & Spelling Police comments I've made this evening, I felt it wise to start a fresh thread for my spleen venting.

An Americanism - should that be Americanizm? - that really annoys me (more than embiggen and envision, yes, really) is the word they use to indicate leaving a ship or aeroplane.

Now, in normal English, like what I was teached ;) , when you get on a boat you embark, and when you get off you disembark. Apparently, Americans are prone to debark when they leave a boat, failing to spot the fact the only thing that barks is a dog.

Anyone else got classic examples of two cultures divided by a common language?
Author:  l3v1ck [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:19 pm ]
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Aluminum or Aluminium? We say one, they say the other...... and it bugs me.
Author:  rustybucket [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:20 pm ]
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Fanny pack - not a selacious activity in Merkinland
Author:  HeatherKay [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:21 pm ]
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Yeah, that's a good one. But why do we have platinum and not platinium? Or titanium and not titanum?

I'm going to stop there before I confuse myself. :D
Author:  l3v1ck [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:24 pm ]
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There are several different terms used offshore.
We name things after what they do, eg "shut in valve".
The yanks (for some reason) name them after the company that made them , eg "TWI valve".
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:36 pm ]
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^^^ That irritates me a lot.

They use brand names for verbs e.g. xerox for photocopy etc
Author:  soddit112 [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:53 pm ]
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i suppose hoovering would be an americanism aswell?
Author:  Linux_User [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:22 pm ]
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soddit112 wrote:
i suppose hoovering would be an americanism aswell?


People in my house are constantly reminded that it's a vacuum cleaner, not a Hoover (it's a Dyson). :D
Author:  richard_neil [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:19 pm ]
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Debark in my language means take the bark off a tree :) But then I live in the countryside where we do that. It's also the source of bark mulch of course.

Otherwise don't get me started. And why do so many 'UK' dictionaries in software still have American spellings in them?

Richard.
Author:  forquare1 [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:31 pm ]
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The debark thing reminds me of music, where the opposite to a crescendo is a diminuendo, but some people call it a decrescendo...

The Americans also seem to love acronyms, we have SMF, FMA, TOI, RMA, and others that I have forgotten...

One thing I learnt recently was that people aren't hung, they are hanged...Despite being taught one could use either, to be hanged just sounds awful...
Author:  Sharks [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:04 pm ]
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Tabling an issue.

We table an issue and mean that we place it on the table for discussion, but in the good 'ol US of A they mean that they postpone discussing the issue. It's a real rib tickler at meetings.

Brit: "Let's table that issue."
Yank: "HELL NO! It's important."
Brit: "Yes, that's why we're tabling it".

English grins and American incomprehension all round. Exeunt omnes.

Sharks
Author:  RedEyes [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:28 pm ]
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richard_neil wrote:
And why do so many 'UK' dictionaries in software still have American spellings in them?


One thing that really bugs me is when you install a program and it gives a language option, which is usually 'US English'. Fair enough, but there's rarely a 'British English' or anything else. Surely with a lack of alternatives, it's just 'English'?
(I've also seen many installers where US English is the only option. Why even have the option then? :roll: )
Author:  pg2114 [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:30 pm ]
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One thing that bugs me is the American-based past participle for some words ending in "m". "Dream" should go to "Dreamt", not "Dreamed", for example.

I got mental when I hear that for some reason.

Peter.
Author:  bobbdobbs [ Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:16 am ]
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HeatherKay wrote:
Following on from a couple of Team Grumpy/Grammar & Spelling Police comments I've made this evening, I felt it wise to start a fresh thread for my spleen venting.

An Americanism - should that be Americanizm? - that really annoys me (more than embiggen and envision, yes, really) is the word they use to indicate leaving a ship or aeroplane.

Now, in normal English, like what I was teached ;) , when you get on a boat you embark, and when you get off you disembark. Apparently, Americans are prone to debark when they leave a boat, failing to spot the fact the only thing that barks is a dog.



The French/Brazilians just swim not disembark :oops: :D :lol:

Herb..thers a bloody "H" at the star of the effing word!!!
Author:  HeatherKay [ Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:27 am ]
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bobbdobbs wrote:
Herb..thers a bloody "H" at the star of the effing word!!!


Dictionary wrote:
ORIGIN Middle English : via Old French from Latin herba ‘grass, green crops, herb.’ Although herb has always been spelled with an h, pronunciation without it was usual in British English until the 19th cent. and is still standard in the U.S.


Hmm. Well, okay then. Preserve ancient English dialects in aspic if you like. Or if you will. :x
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