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big_D
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Yep, I agree with that Prof.
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DoubleTouch
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  | | | | ProfessorF wrote: I disagree. It is all I expect from Michael Bay; I have different expectations of Sam Mendes or Frank Oz. If I pick up a John Grisham/Jilly Cooper novel in an airport, I'm not expecting to read the work of Sartre or Descartes. It doesn't mean that the next time I read a novel, all I'm expecting is the same level of writing. I'll take Louis De Bernieres over Andy McNab any day of the week. Exactly. The cinema is a broad church. There is room for the big-fiery-smashy-CGI spectacle and the warm'n'fuzzy-nature-of-humanity titles. In fact, you could argue that without the big spectacle, then the smaller art films don't get financed. It's a business, and without bums on seats witnessing spectacle, then a lot of the smaller stuff can't be financed. I spent too long in university with cinema snobs. Yes, I enjoyed Jacques Tati, but I also think John Hughes is awesome. There is ample room for both. | | | | |
I think out of all of us you have summated the issues in play here the best. On reflection, maybe critics were expecting too much from this type of film. However, I still cannot help feel that these two spheres of cinema are getting progressively more fragmented, with Art House at one end and Blockbuster at the other, and that is a damaging and negative trend. Gladiator is a good example of a type of film that bucked this. This was a Blockbuster that contained awesome CGI (for the time), loads of fantastic spectacle and epic fights, but also beautifully realised characters, solid plot and motivation, excellent direction and cinematography, excellent narrative arch and raised issues that mirrored our society (as after-all, does not art mirror reality?). I agree that when I pick up media (of any form) I am not expecting the same experience with the same questions asked (that would be preposterous and negate the central tenet of art itself), however, how does society then rate art if it should only ever stand on its own, isolated from anything that came before it or after? If that is, if art can actually be rated at all? There is without doubt room for all types of movies in the "church" of cinema, even Transformers, which as I showed in my first post when I linked in to Empire's Blog, often has more depth than people give credit (even if it is humorous depth). But when you isolate art through a priori judgements, you leave it in a vacuum where it is untouchable, often causing damage to it.
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brataccas
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I thourougly enjoyed both films, people who go along with other peoples opinions are just silly  _________________
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Zippy
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Finally get to see it this weekend. There isn't any imagery for how excited I am  _________________The Official "Saucy Minx" This above all: To Thine Own Self Be True "Red sky at night, Shepherds Delight"..Which is a bit like Shepherds Pie, but with whipped topping instead of mashed potato.
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ProfessorF
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Enjoy.
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Zippy
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OMFGThat film was totally AWESOME It had everything I could want from a Transformers movie and then sooooo much more. 'Splosions by the score, Massive Robots, it poked fun at itself a little bit and .... Well .... Megan Fox really. My Mister had some pedant issues with the geography of the last big fight scene, but otherwise we are in agreement...
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ProfessorF
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I know! Innit great?!
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I'm sorry peeps, but that movie was just awful, and I accepted and liked the first one despite it having little plot or script... I'll post a proper 'review' in that thread when I can, but this movie felt like that brain-freeze you get when you eat ice cream too quickly  _________________Plain English advice on everything money, purchase and service related:
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ProfessorF
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That's ok, we're all allowed to have the wrong opinion.
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As you have proved time and time again in this thread already. (8+p Mark
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Zippy
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I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it Ern, you're entitled to have a different opinon, the world would be a pretty boring place if we all agreed all of the time. I'm quite sure you think some films are fantastic that I think stink like a big pair of pig pants, it doesn't make either of us wrong, it just means we don't have the same taste. I'll be interested in your review  _________________The Official "Saucy Minx" This above all: To Thine Own Self Be True "Red sky at night, Shepherds Delight"..Which is a bit like Shepherds Pie, but with whipped topping instead of mashed potato.
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ProfessorF
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My only criticism is that this film should have been the 'Empire Strikes Back' one.
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leeds_manc
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Slightly worse than the original but with better action scenes?
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Zippy
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My only criticism is that they wouldn't allow "firey, independent" Michaela to run anywhere without being towed by the hand!!! People can run much faster and with much more control if they can pump with both their arms, holding hands while running is a sure-fire way to lose your balance and end up dead. Oh, and the geography thing, but we won't go into that _________________The Official "Saucy Minx" This above all: To Thine Own Self Be True "Red sky at night, Shepherds Delight"..Which is a bit like Shepherds Pie, but with whipped topping instead of mashed potato.
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ProfessorF
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More in the way the film ends. I can't really go into it without big spoilers, but suffice to say, the films ends the wrong way, IMHO.
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