Ah, the worm hole aliens? They only seem mystical because they see time as no different to any other dimension, and get frustrated by our restricted "linear" way of living it.

As to money, presumably currency was still being used outside the federation. On DS9 there's a lot more direct contact with other ways of living.

This is likely the big reason why Disney is the winner in this deal (Though George Lucas comes out with a very hefty amount of Disney shares, so will also continue to profit from the deal long after it leaves the headlines).



There's certainly nothing for him to be depressed about, Alex. (8+p

Mark

But he's an artist! And no amount of Brinks Mat trucks full of shares and dollar bills can take away the fact his purity of vision has been corrupted by The Mouse!

Oh, wait, no.

George talked with Hamill and Fisher

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/mark-hami ... iii-and-ix

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/new-star- ... middle-age

It's very interesting how the mooted final trilogy of films are to be based on original stories.
It kind of would be fitting if Luke Skywalker (for example) was brought back but then got killed off half way through the first film.

The thing that the first trilogy had that the second missed totally, was the human connection.
Luke Skywalker was learning about the universe and inhabitants at the same time the audience was.
Eps I-III were all about the politics and sweeping CGI vistas. It had no heart, no human connection.
That's what the next set of films needs to get back to, in my opinion.

Mark

Could take or leave the originals as you know, but I agree with you from what I've seen of the others.

Joy of Techs view of the deal

Getting back to Trek for a moment....

Roddenbery's vision (I don't care about the atheism/theism part) of a world without money/poverty/hunger, where mankind had finally come together and overcome their differences to explore space was amazing - and still is.

I know Wagon Train In Space was the pitch and that's fine. Coz high concept pitches in order to sell execs are not new. But it would be unfair to simply lump it with that. The reasons for using that pitch are obvious, but that's not the whole show.

However, Prof is also right to an extent - we still have some great content during the 90s and 00s. I loved the arc storytelling of DS9, which aside from B5 was pretty much pioneering before the 00s. Voyager's Marquis/Starfleet thread was great. Q was great. The Borg. Etc. But there's also a lot of shash.

Plenty of you (in fact once again - I think it's everybody here but me) think Lucas is a dick for fracking about with the classic trilogy and bothering to make the prequels at all. I'd never seen the classic trilogy pre-1997 and went straight to the VHS Special Editions. I'm definitely not the only one out there either

I watched the docs on the VHS about the changes he'd made and I could see where he was coming from. George is a visionary creative type (much like Roddenbery). Sometimes they mess with your childhood (like many rich Hollywood types), but it was his vision and we've no way to no whether or not he imagined it like the Specials back in the 70s and just was unable to film it like that...

As for the Prequels, the heart was Anakin - wooden acting and all. One of the posters I remember seeing for Ep II had the tagline, "A Jedi must not know..... love". His love for his mother and Padme and his anger for everyone else except Obiwan is the core of that trilogy to me. Each film has some great set pieces and the drama, heartbreak and the circle completing of Ep III is actually rather good IMHO.

So ulimately, like Vader himself teaches us - no matter how many mistakes you have made, or continue to make, nobody is completely evil. "There is still good in him" says Luke. And I suspect that is true of both Lucas AND Disney....

I did not mind the prequels as much as some. Jar Jar was annoying but the overall story was fine. The final scenes in three seemed rushed. It went very quickly to the creation of Darth Vader. As for story arcs, Babylon 5 was the first big one to do that and even DS9 admits that they stole the story arc from B5. It meant DS9 was more watchable as they did not have to contrive how events happened so often. IIRC there were originally another 3 or 4 stories to complete the Star Wars franchise but Lucas lost interest.

They admitted it? Really?

Yes not publicly but privately to B5 cast. B5 podcasts mentioned it some time ago. I cannot remember when. It was along the lines of B5 showing it could work.

They're in the office opposite me. Want me to drop off a list of questions?

I'm not disputing what the core of the trilogy is, I'm saying that it failed, for me, to have any real reason to care.
Moping around like an emo wannabe does not engender my sympathies.
He was the one that destroyed everything good in his life, unlike Luke Skywalker who had everything good in his life taken away from him.
Therein lies the difference.
Anakin had the power within him to do good, instead he destroyed everything.
Yes, I know he had to some how become Vader, but the way that all played out had me not giving a damn.
Of course, you're as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.
We don't have to agree. (8+)

Mark

FWIW, I find the story arc of Ep 1-3 to be stilted, jerky and generally unrefined. There's terrible exposition, bits of it don't make sense, and Lucas can't direct traffic let alone a love story.