I wanted to reply with a gigantic F**K You, but then I realised, what I have to go on is my personal past experiences, and my knowledge of others of my gender. I can't think of a single better rationale than:

"I've been deleriously happy for 16 months, in a secure loving relationship with an amazing person who doesn't manipulate me or play games. You've been randomly dating from a list of stupid rules for 8 months without success"

I know a lot of women, I mean a LOT, on several different continents with many different situational dating habits. Not one of them would touch you with a 20ft barge pole, if your current male to female ratio wasn't enough of a problem, try adding women from the rest of the planet and just watch your stock plummet.

'Nuff Said!!

Well done man, I think what you did was very good, from what you say you seem to have a certain closeness already

Big ups for Bratty! Nice going dude!

KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK, where you at?

If the only reason she could come up with for you not to hug her was that she might pass the cold onto her then i think you're completely fine. Did she hug back at all ?

IMO like mcman said, it appears much better than you first made it seem .

And don't fret too much to the fact that you didn't ask her out, the opportunity may just not have presented itself properly. There'll always be another time when you next meet up or something =].

Nice one bratty, and good luck with asking her out.

It's always a hard thing to do, but always worth it!

I sometimes find that telling someone I'm going to ask her out helps. For some reason, after I've told someone that I'm going to do it I feel committed.

Well there we go then. Yours is but a personal opinion based on personal experiences that bear little relation to reality. That you can't be bothered to try to rationalise your position simply puts you in the same category as the vast majority of the rest of society's members.



I hope that that remains true.



Erm, actually, have had two girlfriends in that time, a 'friend with benefits' who has now just simply become a friend as she found herself a boyfriend, and then three or four months of depression followed by the two women that I am now getting to know.



You know what, if you bad mouthed me to them of course they're unlikely to look at me twice, though some might still be interested in me regardless and maybe in spite of what you have to say about me.

Without that knowledge, you know a lot of women that would love to date a confident male that exudes demonstrations of higher value and high status. There is a link back on page 12 or 13 that I posted that links through to the evolutionary psychologist's explanations of why women want men of high status and value them more, and it also explains why men like women who are young and maximally fertile. On top of that there is a link from a simple experiment blogged by a female evolutionary psychologist just briefly outlining why women like high status males.

You are ignorant and deluded. I cannot educate or enlighten you, enlightenment being the purpose of education, as you are too close-minded to see the truth rather than your beliefs. I would very much expect you to believe in a God too. Women seem to be very predisposed to this disposition in my experience.

It sounds like you've been manipulated from being someone probably quite sweet and nice, into a womaniser.

Womaniser? I hardly think so. I give each woman a fair go, though I'm becoming more discerning.

I am neither ignorant nor deluded, I would rather have my toenails pulled out with a pair of pliers than be "educated" by you because I don't enjoy being preached at by someone who is full of sh!t. I just have different experience to you and find you blinkered and dogmatic. I don't believe in God and so far you've been wrong in every assumption you've made about me which does make me wonder how the 'eck you "get to know" women on t'internet. We're clearly agreeing to disagree on this, I find you manipulative and cheap, I just don't feel you should spread your disease.

I won't be replying to you anymore because I'm not in the habit of wasting my time.

Sounds like it went well, she still came out to meet up with you, even though she was full of lurgy. I'd not get too hung up on the "asking out" ness, if you enjoy spending time in each others company it'll happen when it happens, use the meantime to get to know her much better and then you'll feel more at ease in her company which will help your confidence when it comes to actually "dating"

I'm glad you enjoyed yourself, I hope you'll keep us updated here.

thx



Im unsure all the time



I hope so



thx, and I think krkux has abandoned this thread as it got raped by assasinator and zippy it wasnt my fault that started all that off?



she did yeah,



cheers bud I take it by that post you have already easily asked a girl out and you have a gf etc?



will keep everyone updated ye but Im a tad worried incase in in the spotlight (which I dont like ) what is lurgy???

assasinators posts are more and more strange, Im going to assume hes not normal and I wont take in any of the info from his brainwashing misleading books (no offence)

Your garden?

Then everything's fine .

Bratty, the lurgy is the cold that'd going round at the given time...

From what you replied with, sounds promising

I just said that I would expect such because of your behaviour. It's not an assumption, just a reasoning based on vague behaviour elicited by you in your responses.

I've been trying to reason with you but you're a woman and I hadn't realised that that is an exercise in futility.