we dont need a wall we have the channel ...

So aside from keeping a small number of deranged lunatics out (Nigel Farage for instance), what's so great about border controls?

The very vast majority of people that come to the UK do so with entirely good intentions, and immigrants as a whole have a net positive effect on the UK and its economy. So why is suddenly blocking them all out such a good thing?

Not sure if you've heard but they've invented things called boats

luckily we can still sink them before they arrive ...

Mr, sorry Sir Farage will be the British ambassador to the USA, shortly ...

sorry had to edit and place this in bold xxx ...

You obviously don't read the 'In The News' thread

Royal Navy 'woefully low' on warships

Excellent, advocating mass murder of innocent people, what could possibly go wrong there.

they are illegals you can not be convicted of murder when they are still at sea (read common law please) ...

and just as a ps. the human rights act does not apply at sea ...

Very few people actually cross the channel in boats. It's very crowded with shipping of various sorts and most attempts to sail over in small groups get spotted very quickly and dealt with by French coastguards (who don't want the corpses of immigrants washing up on French beaches after their dinghy got run over by a container ship thank you very much). The place they travel in boats in is the Med, where the UK has no jurisdiction and will have even less influence on the policing of come Brexit.

It's so unusual for them to make it that the one time some did, it made the national news.

The large majority of illegals entering the UK come in the back of lorries on ferries or through the chunnel. That's why they've had to massively fortify the cargo terminal at Calais. There's no way to absolutely secure that and still allow legit passengers and trade to pass in any reasonable way. Of course the fact our lovely government has cut the size of our border police by 50% is actually the root of the escalation of the problem. But they told people it was the EU's fault and 53% of the population who voted was daft enough to believe them.

The vast majority of migrants that come to the UK are either legitimate migrants from 'the former empire', are refugees we've processed and accepted under international (note : nothing to do with the EU) laws, or are EU nationals migrating in from other EU states. The final one is the only one Brexit will have any effect on at all and the net migration of those isn't anywhere near as big as you'd think. Brexit will actually mean we'll have a lot fewer plumbers, and a lot more grumpy pensioners who can't retire to the Costa del sol any more and have to stay in soggy Britain.

Hagrid: "See, the thing is, Harry, there're some wizards, like the Malfoy family, who think they're better'n everyone else because they’re what people call 'pure-blood'."
Harry Potter: "That's horrible!"
Hagrid: "And it's codswallop, to boot. 'Dirty blood.' Why, there isn’t a wizard alive today that’s not half-blood or less."

And Italy, Greece and the Balkans have the Mediterranean, that is a lot wider than the Channel, it doesn't help.

As long as you don't patrol every metre, sorry, foot of the coastline, constantly, 24/7, you won't stop those that are really determined.

And you will need to unload and check every HGV coming into the country.

Then there are forged documents

It just isn't practical. You will never stop 100% of those determined to get in.

And their missiles will be defunct as well, so they will be throwing stones.

The story was over at El Reg last week, but essentially the new missiles for the new ships won't be ready on time and the old ones will be defunct and, unless they pay to have them upgraded, they will be useless. The navy ships will have less firecraft than those at the end of the 19th Century!

you are correct you cant stop all of them but the ones who do make it here illegally must be deported back to Europe. if Europe rejects this then a camp must be made in Iraq which could be run by the red cross/crescent and administered by the UN. no illegal has has the right of asylum they can apply/appeal after they have been deported this will also include any illegals that are already here ...

I'm illegal too. Incidentally I'm also British descent after my great grandfather was sent to France on a boat as a toddler with his siblings to avoid starvation ( Early 20th century) . Reminds you of something?

an interesting article that i have been stating and agree with ...

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/735699 ... -Frankopan