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pcernie
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From what I've read elsewhere, this new movie could be a prequel, with a look at how the Alien came to be. If that's the case, I'd maybe expect at least a passing scene regarding the 'Jockey' in the first film (his race are telepaths in one of the novelizations for anyone who's interested  ). Alien - Absolutely brilliant. Aliens - Even better IMO, and a lot easier to sit through in terms of there being more action Alien 3 - Watchable if messy, but kinda forgettable. Alien Resurrection - Just daft, with terrible acting from some Alien Versus Predator - Awful plot, but not as bad a film as the paid critics would have you believe. Lack of character, but it is more of an action film. Alien Versus Predator: Requiem - One of the worst films I've ever seen, and I've watched some sh1te in my time  . The acting is awful, it recycles the names and dialogue from the other films even though the characters are completely seperate, the music too, the film is mostly shot in the dark and two centimetres away from the action... I was ready for taking a dump in front of the screen and wiping my backside on the curtains when it was finally all over 
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 |  |  |  | Quote: From what I've read elsewhere, this new movie could be a prequel, with a look at how the Alien came to be. If that's the case, I'd maybe expect at least a passing scene regarding the 'Jockey' in the first film (his race are telepaths in one of the novelizations for anyone who's interested ).
Alien - Absolutely brilliant.
Aliens - Even better IMO, and a lot easier to sit through in terms of there being more action
Alien 3 - Watchable if messy, but kinda forgettable.
Alien Resurrection - Just daft, with terrible acting from some
Alien Versus Predator - Awful plot, but not as bad a film as the paid critics would have you believe. Lack of character, but it is more of an action film.
Alien Versus Predator: Requiem - One of the worst films I've ever seen, and I've watched some sh1te in my time . The acting is awful, it recycles the names and dialogue from the other films even though the characters are completely seperate, the music too, the film is mostly shot in the dark and two centimetres away from the action... I was ready for taking a dump in front of the screen and wiping my backside on the curtains when it was finally all over |  |  |  |  |
I agree with the above entirely, although I have to say that my favorite alternates between Alien and Aliens depending on my mood. As for Requiem, well, as you astutely point out, it is one of the worst films ever made. I watched it because it is one of those "have-to-watch-because-am-avid-fan" type of films (plus, I had hoped that the first AVP would have been built on, because it wasn't total tosh) but bloody hell, it hurt to watch. It butchered pretty much everything! And as for when the US government actually nuclear bombs ITSELF, destroying an entire city, I just cried. How can they combine two of the most notable and memorable SciFi franchises together and then create such diabolical [LIFTED]? It is like taking candy from a baby, surely? Like putting Mohammed Ali and Joe Frazer in a ring, you don't have to do anything, add anything, they will provide all the awesome action themselves. Then again, Requiem was apparently made by the original films' most hardcore, dedicated and biggest fans (there words not mine). So the question has to be raised: fanboyism strikes?
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paulzolo
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Remembering that the original was made by Sir Ridley Scott, a director who has an illustrious portfolio. The problem it seems is that the AVP films were not create by story tellers, but by FX junkies. I’ve not seen the second one, but I read enough to realise that it was done wrong. To quote Spock in Star Trek IV when discussion playing whale-like noises back at the probe - they are “making the noises, but not speaking the language”. There is so much more to Alien than the chest bursting scene. Crew dynamics. I always loved the bickering about pay and bonuses. The crew were little more than desk jockeys for a much larger organisation – the Captain was all but that in name only. Effectively powerless, and those below him less so. And, of course, the Alien itself – a massive deal at the time – nothing like that had been seen on screen before, and it was just genius to get Giger in to create it. The film is still visually breathtaking. After Aliens, I found that the series of comic books provided more than enough sequel fun in keeping with the two films. A number had to be re-written after Alien 3 as as they featured Newt and Hicks. The whole AVP thing was promised many years ago. There was an alien skull in Predator 2, and when that hit the cinema, there was a huge buzz that a film featuring the two would be made. The final result was a let down. So much could have been done with that. Oh, just to add some excitement (and this will never happen unless the BBC pull in some huge favours), there was an alien egg in the episode of Dr Who called Dalek. So the aliens exist in the Doctor’s universe.
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SAughton
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My first thought was: what the hell has Magritte got to do with Alien. I’m not much into that sci-fi/comic book style of art. Not much into sci-fi or comic books for that matter.
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pcernie
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It definitely is a prequel: http://www.collider.com/2009/05/29/excl ... a-prequel/The strange thing is that I'd have been happier if it was just Ridley on producing duties - Tony gets ideas above his station IMO 
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ProfessorF
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Panic not - it's a prequel not a remake! Source
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paulzolo
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This has been troubling me greatly. Am I mad, or does Simon know somehting about Magritte that I don’t. Surely he was Belgian, not Swiss... So I checked. Magritte was Belgian, not Swiss, as any fule kno: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magritte
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paulzolo
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The origin of Space Jockeys have been covered in the Dark Horse comic books.
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paulzolo
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 |  |  |  | pcernie wrote: Alien - Absolutely brilliant. Aliens - Even better IMO, and a lot easier to sit through in terms of there being more action Alien 3 - Watchable if messy, but kinda forgettable. Alien Resurrection - Just daft, with terrible acting from some Alien Versus Predator - Awful plot, but not as bad a film as the paid critics would have you believe. Lack of character, but it is more of an action film. Alien Versus Predator: Requiem - One of the worst films I've ever seen, and I've watched some sh1te in my time  . |  |  |  |  |
This is exactly how I feel about them all too.
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Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:38 am |
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Paul1965
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Total Recall is next, according to Hollywood Reporter: I like the fact that it is being produced by 'Original Films.' Total irony, more like.
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Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:25 am |
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pcernie
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I have most of the GNs but haven't read a single one yet - usually I take a wee notion to delve into the library and then there's no stopping me, so it'll happen at some point 
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davrosG5
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Well if the Alien queen managed to insinuate herself aboard surely something as small as a face hugger or even an alien wouldn't have had much of a problem. The queen could have carried it for all we know. Still, I have to agree, Alien 3 isn't a patch on Alien or Aliens. Alien Resurrection was completely unnecessary. I didn't mind AVP on its own tbh but I don't think I'd bother to go and see the second one.
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pcernie
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I watched Aliens again the other night, and I have to say the Queen getting onboard the Sulaco bothered me If you thought A:R was unnecessary, under no circumstances watch AvP:R - it makes A:R look like a masterpiece in comparison... Seriously, don't even waste your time when it comes on TV, you'll probably just get angry 
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Paul1965
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According to Wikipedia, Oldboy may be next in line for a remake (or re-imagining). As if that wasn't enough of a groan-inducer we may see Will Smith in the lead role. Should be good! 
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