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FAO Those of you that live in London. 

Where's the best place to be? (And why?)
In town (in the case of London presumably Zone 1-2) 18%  18%  [ 3 ]
Close to town (say 30mins or so out) 18%  18%  [ 3 ]
Out of town (i.e. countryside/coast/village) 41%  41%  [ 7 ]
Other 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Pie 24%  24%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 17

FAO Those of you that live in London. 
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Cool. Money doesn't interest me, beyond what I need to live. I have no desire for bags of disposable income, as I would rather have people around me than stuff. That said, wages down here make it difficult to get by on your own and that is something that I feel should be a basic "right" (maybe that's a little strong, but I dunno).

Also, what about this:

political scientist and professor of public policy at Harvard, Robert D. Putnam (via Wiki) wrote:
Putnam also suggests that social capital, and the associated growth of public trust are inhibited by immigration and rising racial diversity in communities.[53] Putnam's study regarding the issue argued that in American areas with a lack of homogeneity, some individuals neither participated in bonding nor bridging social capital. In societies where immigration is high (USA) or where ethnic heterogeneity is high (Eastern Europe), it was found that citizens lacked in both kinds of social capital and were overall far less trusting of others than members of homogenous communities were found to be. Lack of homogeneity led to people withdrawing from even their closest groups and relationships, creating an atomized society as opposed to a cohesive community. These findings challenge previous beliefs that exposure to diversity strengthens social capital, either through bridging social gaps between ethnicities or strengthening in-group bonds.


What I think makes the world go round is relationships. People, connections, the magic of existence all fascinate me. London is quite honestly the most anonymous place I've ever been to. Don't get me wrong, I love the energy there and all the pros you describe are perfectly valid. But the lack of cohesion might bother me. What does everyone think....?


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I spent 3 years in SW19 in my early 20's it was great for all the fun reasons stated by others.

I spend 3 - 4 hours per day travelling there and back so that my family and I can enjoy the peace and quiet of rural living.

Crime - whats that?

Traffic jams - rush hour here is 6 cars.

15 minute drive and we are in Bath - very cosmopolitan has virtually anything you want in terms of entertainment.

not as close to the Beach as we would like but cant win them all.

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When I moved out of London, my salary halved. Not too much of a problem though, as I ended up living in a nicer house, driving a nicer car and had more money in my pocket at the end of the month.

I do still miss the variety of bars and restaurants and the availability of so many things, but the benefits of the countryside far outweigh this IMO.

Whenever I visit London (which is not often – twice a year tops) on the Friday, I always find myself saying, "ooh, I really miss this, that or the other". By Sunday night, I'm not missing any of it and I can't wait to get home!

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I like it here in Surrey. I can be in the centre of London in ~45-50 mins and I can be on my bike offroad in less than a mile.

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saspro wrote:
I also find most places outside cities very slow.


I've only been to London a handful of times, I wouldn't want to move there, or any other city. I find the opposite to sas, cities are frustratingly slow compared to a town in my opinion. People are so busy doing other things and getting somewhere fast, it all seems to slow down because of it...
But that's only my perspective as a visitor.


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Bath - very cosmopolitan has virtually anything you want in terms of entertainment

Bath's the biggest city I've ever lived in. Hoping to be back there in 12 month or so's time.

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okenobi wrote:
what about this:
political scientist and professor of public policy at Harvard, Robert D. Putnam (via Wiki) wrote:
Putnam also suggests that social capital, and the associated growth of public trust are inhibited by immigration and rising racial diversity in communities.[53] Putnam's study regarding the issue argued that in American areas with a lack of homogeneity, some individuals neither participated in bonding nor bridging social capital. In societies where immigration is high (USA) or where ethnic heterogeneity is high (Eastern Europe), it was found that citizens lacked in both kinds of social capital and were overall far less trusting of others than members of homogenous communities were found to be. Lack of homogeneity led to people withdrawing from even their closest groups and relationships, creating an atomized society as opposed to a cohesive community. These findings challenge previous beliefs that exposure to diversity strengthens social capital, either through bridging social gaps between ethnicities or strengthening in-group bonds.


I wouldn't worry unduly about that, he did more to prove that applying economic analysis to social relationships is a silly idea than he ever did to demonstrate that society is falling around our ears (for those of you tempted to take this off topic with your chicken little anecdotes about nothing being as good as it was in your grandad's day; may I suggest we have enough threads about that already)
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What I think makes the world go round is relationships. People, connections, the magic of existence all fascinate me. London is quite honestly the most anonymous place I've ever been to. Don't get me wrong, I love the energy there and all the pros you describe are perfectly valid. But the lack of cohesion might bother me. What does everyone think....?

I don't think you were in London for long enough. It's as easy to make friends here as anywhere. They are just a bit more likely to be Australian, or Brazilian or something than wherever you are now.


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You can't beat a slow pace of life IMO. Here in Cornwall, we're so laid back we're practically horizontal. ;)

Is the Linux_User who erupted into a bout of apoplectic fury and demanded the immolation of a government department at the merest hint of having his pint of frosty cold cider served in a plastic receptacle some other guy then?


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AlunD wrote:
Bath - very cosmopolitan has virtually anything you want in terms of entertainment

Bath's the biggest city I've ever lived in. Hoping to be back there in 12 month or so's time.


Bath is a tiny city. :shock: It's not much bigger than Taunton.

Cardiff is the biggest city I've ever lived in.

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You can't beat a slow pace of life IMO. Here in Cornwall, we're so laid back we're practically horizontal. ;)

Is the Linux_User who erupted into a bout of apoplectic fury and demanded the immolation of a government department at the merest hint of having his pint of frosty cold cider served in a plastic receptacle some other guy then?


:lol: Not many people round 'ere are fans of the government in London. MPs have sweet FA appreciation for life outside the M25.

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AlunD wrote:
Bath - very cosmopolitan has virtually anything you want in terms of entertainment

Bath's the biggest city I've ever lived in. Hoping to be back there in 12 month or so's time.


Bath is a tiny city. :shock: It's not much bigger than Taunton.

That was my point (8-p)

...if my stalker-type ever posts here she'd vouch for how remote my home address is.

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I not as close to the Beach as we would like but cant win them all.

We went to Weston-Super-Mud at the end of last term...

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I have lived in central Portsmouth, central Wellington and the burbs of Bournemouth (which is technically a town. Although I'd say it's busier than Bath ;) )

I prefer the hustle and bustle, busyness, and a fast pace of life that you get in central cities. Some sleepy little village somewhere is my idea of hell unless I'm on holiday.

If I ever got the chance to take a job in central London I'd love to move there.

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14 years in West Ken ,loved it yes it's hard to make friends but the amount of peeps I still know after being gone 20 years or so it's still a fun place .
having said all that ,Hamburg was brill ,and Here in East Marbella is fun ,but I would move out of town tomorrow given the chance .
I like to be 30 mins away from a big town so I can get what I need but when I am at home it's quiet.
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I live in NW London. So far enough away from the centre but close enough to get to it without any problem.

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