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Author:  Linux_User [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:52 pm ]
Post subject:  RIM bitch-slap Apple, turns out Apple lied
Apparently, RIM don't suffer from the same signal problems as Apple, despite Apple's claims that the BlackBerry suffers the same problems.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... enna-angry

Quote:
One thing is for certain, RIM's customers don't need to use a case for their BlackBerry smartphone to maintain proper connectivity.

:lol: :lol: :shock:
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:37 am ]
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Apple handled this incident badly. Though what really surprises me is that no one even thought to mention, that as revolutionary as the aerial arrangement is, that there would be problems with the aerials during normal use because of hand conductivity. Maybe no one is willing to speak up about such issues at Apple, for fear of losing their job. That can be catastrophic if it happens again.
Author:  big_D [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:27 am ]
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On the Blackberry we use, holding, cupping them in the hand causes the signal to drop... Yes, it isn't as extreme as the iPhones we have (3GS), but they still suffer. It is a physical limitation of having an integrated antenne, as opposed to those old pull out antennes on older mobilephones.

The manufacturers can minimise the impact, by placing the antenne carefully, but as long as the device has to be held in the hand and placed against the ear, it will suffer to some extent to signal distortion.
Author:  bobbdobbs [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:34 am ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Apple handled this incident badly. Though what really surprises me is that no one even thought to mention, that as revolutionary as the aerial arrangement is, that there would be problems with the aerials during normal use because of hand conductivity. Maybe no one is willing to speak up about such issues at Apple, for fear of losing their job. That can be catastrophic if it happens again.


Its a common problem in lyaered managerial companies, especially when the head honcho is know to throw a hissy fit, humiliate them in open forums and terminate people careers because they dont tell him what he wants to hear. It breads a culture of yes men.
Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:55 am ]
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Linux_User wrote:
Apparently, RIM don't suffer from the same signal problems as Apple, despite Apple's claims that the BlackBerry suffers the same problems.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... enna-angry

Quote:
One thing is for certain, RIM's customers don't need to use a case for their BlackBerry smartphone to maintain proper connectivity.

:lol: :lol: :shock:


Someone mentioned to me that the problem was exacerbated by fat, sweaty American hands holding the phones ;-)

I have been able to cause signal drop off on my iPhone 3G by smothering it with my hands.
Author:  james016 [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:33 pm ]
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Linux_User, where is your avatar from? I recognise it but can't place it.
Author:  belchingmatt [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:41 pm ]
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james016 wrote:
Linux_User, where is your avatar from? I recognise it but can't place it.


Terrahawks, from the nostalgia thread in the meeting place.
Author:  jonbwfc [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:10 pm ]
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youtubery

Turns out, RIM lied too. Who'd a thunk it, eh?
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:44 pm ]
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bobbdobbs wrote:
Its a common problem in lyaered managerial companies, especially when the head honcho is know to throw a hissy fit, humiliate them in open forums and terminate people careers because they dont tell him what he wants to hear. It breads a culture of yes men.

And very bad for the company, shareholders and the staff.
Author:  jonbwfc [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:34 pm ]
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bobbdobbs wrote:
Its a common problem in lyaered managerial companies, especially when the head honcho is know to throw a hissy fit, humiliate them in open forums and terminate people careers because they dont tell him what he wants to hear. It breads a culture of yes men.

Right now, given they're making more money by selling more things to more people than they ever have before, it's very unlikely either the customers or shareholders are going to demand any significant change in the way Apple does business.

Jon
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:18 pm ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
bobbdobbs wrote:
Its a common problem in lyaered managerial companies, especially when the head honcho is know to throw a hissy fit, humiliate them in open forums and terminate people careers because they dont tell him what he wants to hear. It breads a culture of yes men.

Right now, given they're making more money by selling more things to more people than they ever have before, it's very unlikely either the customers or shareholders are going to demand any significant change in the way Apple does business.

Jon

I agree but at this stage it might just be a couple of people who are yes men, the last thing that you want are a company of yes men. Yes men are bad in every organisation that they join.
Author:  bobbdobbs [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:40 pm ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
bobbdobbs wrote:
Its a common problem in lyaered managerial companies, especially when the head honcho is know to throw a hissy fit, humiliate them in open forums and terminate people careers because they dont tell him what he wants to hear. It breads a culture of yes men.

Right now, given they're making more money by selling more things to more people than they ever have before, it's very unlikely either the customers or shareholders are going to demand any significant change in the way Apple does business.

Jon

thats ok then, as long as the spice flows.. :lol:
Author:  jonbwfc [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:57 pm ]
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Hey, that's capitalism for you....
Author:  ProfessorF [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:00 pm ]
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dum-dum-der - guess what?

If I cover the back of my Pony Ericsson with my hand, I lose bars too.

I'm outraged, naturally.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:06 pm ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
dum-dum-der - guess what?

If I cover the back of my Pony Ericsson with my hand, I lose bars too.

I'm outraged, naturally.

Quick demand a recall.
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