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Author:  pcernie [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:13 am ]
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http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/358510/appl ... o-safari-5

Good for the consumer (class in fact), maybe bad for everyone else :oops:

Author:  belchingmatt [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:16 am ]
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The Reader facility also detects when an article runs over several pages, and runs the entire article into the same page, saving the user from having to click through.


:)

Author:  paulzolo [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:34 am ]
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pcernie wrote:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/358510/apple-builds-ad-killing-reader-into-safari-5

Good for the consumer (class in fact), maybe bad for everyone else :oops:


Curious as they are providing an ad platform for the iOS devices. No word about when this feature will make it to the iPHone and iPad - possibly with iOS4, I suspect.

Author:  jonbwfc [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:52 pm ]
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Finally getting a firefox style plugin system is definite plus too - see this for example, that was knocked up in a couple of days...

Author:  Nick [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:34 pm ]
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That Coda notes extension looks handy.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:12 pm ]
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belchingmatt wrote:
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The Reader facility also detects when an article runs over several pages, and runs the entire article into the same page, saving the user from having to click through.


:)

That is my biggest complaint. Why on earth do websites do this. What invariably happens is that someone collates the summary on a site like digg or reddit and no one actually gets past page one. All their advertisers then lose out.

Author:  paulzolo [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:53 pm ]
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Nick wrote:
That Coda notes extension looks handy.

+1

It will be a blessing and a curse. I know at least one person who will email me annotated web pages instead of talking to me about it.

Author:  pcernie [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:59 am ]
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Google says Apple ad rules hurt competition

Apple's latest changes to its developer's agreement would create "artificial" barriers to competition, Google says, claiming its own advertising tools would be effectively crippled.

Apple changed the language of the agreement on Monday. As written, it appears to prohibit certain third-party ad agencies from collecting critical usage data from iPhone applications.

This would hamper rival ad agencies' ability to target their ads and make it more difficult to compete with Apple's own ad network, which is set to launch 1 July.

Artificial barriers to competition hurt users and developers and, in the long run, stall technological progress

"This change is not in the best interests of users or developers," Omar Hamoui, founder of mobile ad company AdMob, said in a blog post. AdMob was recently purchased by Google.

Hamoui said Google will raise its concerns with Apple, which has declined to comment on the new terms of its developers agreement.

"Artificial barriers to competition hurt users and developers and, in the long run, stall technological progress," Hamoui said.

AdMob recently disclosed that roughly one-third of the ads it served in April were for devices running the iPhone platform. The iPad and the iPod touch also use the software.

The initial language of Apple's new iPhone developers agreement, which emerged in April, prohibited data about app usage to be transmitted to any outside analytics companies, which help agencies target their ads.

Those rules rankled some app developers and generated questions from the Federal Trade Commission, one developer said.

The updated language - which was first noted by the MediaMemo blog - appeared to put in place significant new restrictions, particularly when it comes to Google.

It allows user data to be transmitted only to "an independent advertising service provider whose primary business is serving mobile ads," one that is not affiliated with "a developer or distributor of mobile devices, mobile operating systems."

This would effectively bar Google, which designed the Android mobile operating system and makes the Nexus One smartphone.

AdMob versus iAd

Google paid $750 million for AdMob. After holding the deal up for six months, the FTC approved it last month, saying Apple's entry into the mobile ad market would increase competition.

Apple purchased mobile ad company Quattro Wireless in January, after being outbid by Google for AdMob.

In April, Apple unveiled iAd, its own advertising network, which will sell and host ads on the iPhone platform. Apple said Monday it has already reeled in $60 million worth of commitments for mobile ads.

Read more: Google says Apple ad rules hurt competition | News | PC Pro http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/358567/goog ... z0qS0QC6zM


And it starts...

Author:  jonbwfc [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:19 pm ]
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clicky

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If anything, instead of this belligerent whinging, web publishers should wise up that people visit their sites to read content. Safari Reader does hide ads, after they - along with the almost-constant barrage of ‘Share This’, ‘Tweet This’, ‘Buzz This’ [LIFTED] - are shown alongside each post, and above all: it’s not mandatory to use, or enforced any more than the RSS button. Perhaps instead of flamebait posts of ‘Apple are out to get us’ media companies should be asking themselves ‘how did reading content online become so sucky’?

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:30 pm ]
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I finally used Reader and it is hit and miss. On one site it collated the text from a number of pages but not the images. I can live with it. It will be so much better than scrolling through page after page of ad filled text. If Websites want to avoid their ads being cut out scrap the multipage layout. Simples.

Author:  gavomatic57 [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:49 pm ]
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I love the reader function, it's awesome. I've started using Safari again on Windows and the Mac. I really miss it at work...but then I have to use IE6 so every current browser in the world would be better, even Opera.

Author:  Nick [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:56 pm ]
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gavomatic57 wrote:
I love the reader function, it's awesome. I've started using Safari again on Windows and the Mac. I really miss it at work...but then I have to use IE6 so every current browser in the world would be better, even Opera.


For some reason, I thought you were a big opera fan?

Author:  gavomatic57 [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:59 pm ]
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Nick wrote:
gavomatic57 wrote:
I love the reader function, it's awesome. I've started using Safari again on Windows and the Mac. I really miss it at work...but then I have to use IE6 so every current browser in the world would be better, even Opera.


For some reason, I thought you were a big opera fan?


You must have me confused with someone else! I'd use IE over Opera.

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