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Author:  pcernie [ Wed May 26, 2010 12:48 pm ]
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lanc ... 162158.stm

I find it amazing that he didn't notice the initial impact or resistance as he was driving :?
Author:  belchingmatt [ Wed May 26, 2010 4:26 pm ]
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She told him he could retain his LGV driving licence because he could not see, hear or smell the car.


Was that the tyres, or the driver's trousers?
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed May 26, 2010 6:48 pm ]
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Air conditioning would reduce incoming smells. That said she did undertake him and without due care and attention so she should have at least three points on her license. As the judge said he manage to drive to the hard shoulder and stop without further incident. A fair outcome.
Author:  Linux_User [ Wed May 26, 2010 7:22 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Air conditioning would reduce incoming smells. That said she did undertake him and without due care and attention so she should have at least three points on her license. As the judge said he manage to drive to the hard shoulder and stop without further incident. A fair outcome.


Undertaking isn't an offence, so not sure where you're going with that. The lorry also hit her, not the other way round, so if anyone's getting points it should be the lorry driver.
Author:  ProfessorF [ Wed May 26, 2010 7:26 pm ]
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Linux_User wrote:
Undertaking isn't an offence, so not sure where you're going with that.


Bit of a grey area there -

“Highway Code rule 268 advises against undertaking on a motorway: "Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake". On other roads you can "only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right" (rule 163). On all roads, undertaking is permitted if the vehicles in the lane to the right are queueing and slow moving. Undertaking in an aggressive or reckless manner could be considered Careless Driving or more seriously Dangerous Driving, both of which are legally enforceable offences.”
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu May 27, 2010 12:38 am ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
Linux_User wrote:
Undertaking isn't an offence, so not sure where you're going with that.


Bit of a grey area there -

“Highway Code rule 268 advises against undertaking on a motorway: "Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake". On other roads you can "only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right" (rule 163). On all roads, undertaking is permitted if the vehicles in the lane to the right are queueing and slow moving. Undertaking in an aggressive or reckless manner could be considered Careless Driving or more seriously Dangerous Driving, both of which are legally enforceable offences.”

That was my point. Also when entering a motorway you are supposed to give way if traffic is coming rather than force it into the middle lane.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu May 27, 2010 12:54 am ]
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pcernie wrote:
I find it amazing that he didn't notice the initial impact or resistance as he was driving :?
I don't find it amazing, I find it unbelievable...... literally!
I think he's got away with driving without dur care and attention there.
Author:  belchingmatt [ Thu May 27, 2010 7:14 am ]
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Do we actually know who was changing lane at the time of the incident?
Author:  Geiseric [ Thu May 27, 2010 7:51 am ]
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Having spent a few years in the 90s driving HGV's around the country when I saw the clip on the news saying he had been cleared of charges because he hadn’t see the car attached to the front of this tractor unit, I though boll*cks.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu May 27, 2010 10:17 am ]
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belchingmatt wrote:
Do we actually know who was changing lane at the time of the incident?

She was.
Author:  belchingmatt [ Thu May 27, 2010 10:32 am ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
belchingmatt wrote:
Do we actually know who was changing lane at the time of the incident?

She was.


Ok then, her fault. All I saw in the article was that she had recently joined the motorway. I really depair at the lack of facts in reports. :x
Author:  rustybucket [ Thu May 27, 2010 11:34 am ]
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pcernie wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/10162158.stm

I find it amazing that he didn't notice the initial impact or resistance as he was driving :?

He may have thought it was a large pot hole.

Now that's believable. :x
Author:  belchingmatt [ Thu May 27, 2010 12:31 pm ]
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rustybucket wrote:
pcernie wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/10162158.stm

I find it amazing that he didn't notice the initial impact or resistance as he was driving :?

He may have thought it was a large pot hole.

Now that's believable. :x


^^ True
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu May 27, 2010 2:01 pm ]
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rustybucket wrote:
pcernie wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/10162158.stm

I find it amazing that he didn't notice the initial impact or resistance as he was driving :?

He may have thought it was a large pot hole.

Now that's believable. :x

And with the state of the roads not impossible to get a jury to understand either.
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