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Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri May 21, 2010 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Middle class finances hardest hit by recession

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/pers ... ssion.html

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The findings by credit agency Experian suggested the middle classes saw personal insolvencies rise by almost 38 per cent in 2009 while the working classes saw numbers rise by just 13 per cent

Probably because the working class could not get on the property/debt ladder in the first place.

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James Jones, a manager at Experian, said: “Plummeting returns on savings and dwindling investments have combined with significant increases in essential living costs, such as petrol, food and domestic energy, to really hurt the pockets of the middle classes. Many will also have been stung by the property market slump, through heavily mortgaged second homes or buy-to-let investments.”
And Alan Tomlinson an insolvency practitioner at Tomlinsons, said "People on £40,000 salaries were spending like people earning six figures and when house prices started to fall and the employment market weaken it all ended in quite dramatic style. If your finances are very geared, as they so often were, it only takes a small change in circumstances for the walls to come crashing in."

Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri May 21, 2010 7:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Middle class finances hardest hit by recession

I was £22k down last year due to reduced work and unemployment.
Now I have a job it's another £3k a year less and comes with lots more pointless paperwork.

Bloody bankers.

Author:  TheHobgob [ Fri May 21, 2010 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Middle class finances hardest hit by recession

l3v1ck wrote:
I was £22k down last year due to reduced work and unemployment.


:shock: Either you used to earn a [LIFTED] load are were unemployed for the majority of the year?

What is it you do l3v1ck, if you don't mind me asking?

Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri May 21, 2010 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Middle class finances hardest hit by recession

I work offshore.
I spent eleven months at home before I was laid off. ( Jan-Nov) I was on about half my normal income during that time.
Just spent 5 months on the dole before I got a new job last month.

Author:  TheHobgob [ Fri May 21, 2010 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Middle class finances hardest hit by recession

l3v1ck wrote:
I work offshore.
I spent eleven months at home before I was laid off. ( Jan-Nov) I was on about half my normal income during that time.
Just spent 5 months on the dole before I got a new job last month.


Your a pirate :D

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri May 21, 2010 10:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Middle class finances hardest hit by recession

l3v1ck wrote:
I was £22k down last year due to reduced work and unemployment.
Now I have a job it's another £3k a year less and comes with lots more pointless paperwork.

Bloody bankers.

I have a friend in the construction industry and his pay is no more than it was ten years ago and down considerably on that before the crisis.

While the bankers are a major cause of the problems it was the whole borrowing well beyond peoples means that got everyone into that position. That is partly the fault of the regulators who allowed banking standards to slip.

Author:  Linux_User [ Fri May 21, 2010 11:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Middle class finances hardest hit by recession

Amnesia10 wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
I was £22k down last year due to reduced work and unemployment.
Now I have a job it's another £3k a year less and comes with lots more pointless paperwork.

Bloody bankers.

I have a friend in the construction industry and his pay is no more than it was ten years ago and down considerably on that before the crisis.

While the bankers are a major cause of the problems it was the whole borrowing well beyond peoples means that got everyone into that position. That is partly the fault of the regulators who allowed banking standards to slip.


No-one 'borrowed beyond their means' quite as much as UK banks (and I reserve particular judgement for HBOS and RBS) did.

Author:  rustybucket [ Fri May 21, 2010 11:32 pm ]
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Middle class finances hardest hit by recession

Drip drip drip drip...

It's the sound of my heart bleeding.

Author:  TheHobgob [ Sat May 22, 2010 12:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Middle class finances hardest hit by recession

rustybucket wrote:
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Middle class finances hardest hit by recession

Drip drip drip drip...

It's the sound of my heart bleeding.


Sigh

Author:  Linux_User [ Sat May 22, 2010 12:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Middle class finances hardest hit by recession

What counts as "middle classes" these days? I keep being told the "average" wage is in the mid 20s(K), but TBH I'm finding it hard to find jobs (admittedly for graduates) that pay more than £16-18k.

Author:  TheHobgob [ Sat May 22, 2010 1:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Middle class finances hardest hit by recession

Linux_User wrote:
What counts as "middle classes" these days? I keep being told the "average" wage is in the mid 20s(K), but TBH I'm finding it hard to find jobs (admittedly for graduates) that pay more than £16-18k.


Yes but I don't think they are categorising class by wage at 21, graduate wage tends to increase far faster than most other groups of people. So after 10 years you should be on £30k+, therefore fitting into that "middle class" bracket so when your kids go to uni you get no state support :).

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