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Author: | pcernie [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:06 am ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | 270,000 civil servants join 48-hour strike | |||||||||
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8554345.stm
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Author: | hifidelity2 [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 270,000 civil servants join 48-hour strike |
The legal min is I think 1 week ( or 1.5 weeks if over 40) / year capped at around £300 / week So they are getting even with the new system a very generous package I used to work in industry and now work in the “Semi” public sector. I think the benefits are top notch and for me make up for the slightly lower salary I get I think that some people who have worked their whole lives in the public sector need to wake up and realise just how hard it can be in the private sector |
Author: | l3v1ck [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 270,000 civil servants join 48-hour strike |
Well that'll save about £13.5m in wages per day. (270k x £50 ish x 2 days = £27m) |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:20 am ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | Re: 270,000 civil servants join 48-hour strike | |||||||||
I work in what is technically the public sector. Last year we had 25% of our staff 'made redundant' (i.e. got off the wage bill) with no obvious reduction in the work we're required to do. This year we've had our pay cut and there are distinct rumblings that the employee pension scheme may be in for a major kicking. So yeah, dead easy. Jon |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:24 am ] | |||||||||
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Or 0.0001% of what UKGov gave to the banks. Jon |
Author: | l3v1ck [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 270,000 civil servants join 48-hour strike |
True, but how many days do they have to strike before you can give them they money they want and not actually pay out any more than if they'd never gone on strike in the first place? |
Author: | hifidelity2 [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:47 am ] | |||||||||
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SWMBO works in the building trade - 60% redundacies in her office, Statutory Redundancy (plus 1 months salary extra). No pay rise and no bonus this year The public sector will be in in the next few years for a lot of job losses as whoever gets in tries to cut the budget deficit but they have for the last 10 years been onto a good thing |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:03 pm ] | |||||||||
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To be fair, the building trade has had it really hard - much harder than a lot of the rest of the public or private sectors. I don't think I'm particularly in a cushy job but I'm bloody glad I'm not a builder. And I suppose it could be said that for the last, well if not 10 years then at least 5 years, everyone has been 'onto a good thing' without really the foundations to justify it, which is partly why the whole country is suddenly stuffed. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:51 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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My best friend is in the building trade and has been made redundant twice in last couple of years. He is currently on short time work and little notice of that. Not even full days. The building trade is in a mess, and even the civil side is not any busier. |
Author: | davrosG5 [ Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 270,000 civil servants join 48-hour strike |
While it's fair to say that I just about fell of my chair when I found out how much redundancy pay the civil service are trying to protect (3 years) I have to take fully the point made by the general secretary of the PCS on channel 4 news tonight. This condition is in their contracts. It was put in there by one Ms. Thatcher who wasn't exactly well know for her happy relationship with civil servants. And, at a time when we were told that the bankers bonuses couldn't be touched because they were contractually protected the civil service is facing the prospect that their contracts is going to be (or already has been) torn up in front of their faces (to pay for the massive deficit caused by the bank bail out). That does stick in the craw. Massively. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:45 am ] | |||||||||
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If that is the case I am with the civil servants. If they can rip up contracts why didn't they do it with the banks first. The civil servants would had less of a leg to stand on. |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:59 am ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | Re: 270,000 civil servants join 48-hour strike | |||||||||
It rather does look like, in not opposing the banks contracts, the government has made a rod for it's own back. Sadly, that's also our back, because in the end it's our money. And in any case, the deal the CS unions are asking for is pretty reasonable compared to what the post office workers are actually getting. 6.9% in the current economic climate, from a business that's going down the tubes? Mental. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:42 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 270,000 civil servants join 48-hour strike |
Post office workers in the main are pretty poorly paid. Plus we do not know how long this deal is and the other strings attached such as end to work to rule and shift changes etc. |
Author: | gavomatic57 [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:04 pm ] | |||||||||
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It's also the civil servant's money as well, given that they pay just as much tax as everyone else, apart from the N.I. reduction from being opted out of the state pension. |
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