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the EU will welcome it as a full member then ...
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| Author: | pcernie [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Turkey referendum: Final campaigning ahead of landmark vote |
Turkey referendum: Final campaigning ahead of landmark vote - BBC News http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39607962 He's already a dictator you blind twats. |
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| Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:53 pm ] | |||||||||
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the EU will welcome it as a full member then ... |
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| Author: | pcernie [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:55 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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They should never have been anywhere near him. Not even to string him along like they were doing. Inevitably they now need the twisted git, at least in the short term. |
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| Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Turkey referendum: Final campaigning ahead of landmark v |
its just one dictatorship aiding and abetting another dictatorship so i will not be surprised of the result ... |
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| Author: | jonlumb [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:56 am ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Guy Verhofstadt's comment after the result:
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| Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:46 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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after the 'alleged' coup (similar to the Reichstag fire Germany 1933, then followed the night of the long knifes). Turkey then enabled its own version of 'the night of the long knifes' after the failed 'alleged' coup. now 'give me all the power' referendum just held in Turkey (infamous referendum in 1934 please check your history here Germany 1933 -1937 national SOCIALIST party) and still the EU are allowing full trade access from and to Turkey with no hint it will be curtailed. i believe that limited membership negotiations along with unlimited free movement are still on the table. its one dictatorship negotiating with another dictatorship. not withstanding Turkey retains full NATO membership. please, by all means, prove me wrong ... |
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| Author: | jonbwfc [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Turkey referendum: Final campaigning ahead of landmark v |
Erdogan has said that he plans to put a return of the death penalty to a public referendum quite soon. Capital punishment is an absolute deal breaker for the EU - if you have it on your statute books you cannot become a full EU member, no ifs no buts. Imagine if Erdogan used a the EU arrest warrant regulations to drag someone back to Turkey from say France to be executed, it would be bedlam. Erdogan doesn't give a toss about the EU. Erdogan gives a toss about staying in power. If lining his political enemies up against a wall and shooting them will keep him in power, even if it means no EU membership for the next 20 years, that's exactly what he'll do. He just wants some level of whitewashing of it first. |
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| Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:45 pm ] | |||||||||
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we haven't got to the stage of a referendum on the death penalty in Turkey yet (which they enact already) but they still are at the EU table regarding membership and NATO members. of course he wishes to remain in power so does juncker. no difference there then. the EU is already in bedlam i am hoping it turns into complete chaos and collapses ... |
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| Author: | jonbwfc [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:22 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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Well, I think the main difference is Juncker isn't putting his political opponents in prison, nor is he planning to have anyone killed. Erdogan already does the former, and I think it's pretty reasonable to suggest himsaying he'll ask 'the people' if they want to bring back the death penalty strongly implies he plans to do the latter. So actually quite a lot of difference, in fact.
No, it isn't. If you seriously considered 'Bedlam' on a continental scale, any sensible person would be down on their knees every night praying for it not to happen (clue : world war II). If you actually DO want that to happen, you're frankly insane. Millions of innocent people dying is not a valid price for proving a point. |
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| Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:13 am ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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juncker and the EU do a different kind of imprisonment its economic but with similar results. but juncker and the EU have the same powerful believes over control just as Turkey has. the EU is in bedlam maybe you haven't seen it yet, hopefully Brexit brings it home to roost to them in spades. as of WWII (and WWI) that lies squarely at a certain doorstep i wonder whose ... |
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| Author: | pcernie [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Turkey referendum: Final campaigning ahead of landmark v |
Turkey referendum: Trump congratulates Erdogan - BBC News http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39626116 'Where? Oh, a friend of Vlad's? I'll get right on it.' |
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