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Author:  pcernie [ Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:18 pm ]
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Pay staff their tips, business secretary tells restaurant chains | Life and style | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... y-to-staff

Bloody right. I don't personally agree with tipping since the staff should be paid properly to start with (and it's a bit of a peer pressure thing), but those who do give money to the staff have every right to expect it actually goes to them.
Author:  rustybucket [ Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:17 pm ]
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I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there [/Lumbergh]

I personally find the levels of service in the UK to be apocalyptic. I don't like the idea of needing tips in order to be able to survive but tips are a form of performance-related pay - an idea with which I very much agree. The problem is not so much that tipping is a thing but rather that most Britons I know simply do not feel comfortable refusing to tip. Consequently, many friends of mine leave a tip when the quality of service definitely did not warrant it.

We have the same problem at work. I have consistently received party rises and bonuses because I deliver good service both to the customers and to the company. Others are frankly slackers and are hurt or offended when their pay barely changes.
Author:  jonlumb [ Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:46 pm ]
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I'm with Jim on this, I consider that bringing food to the table is a basic part of what a restaurant does, and what I am paying for in the list price for a meal. Bog standard service isn't going to get a tip from me. The flip side is that when people do provide exceptional service, I tend to tip very heavily, and wherever possible in cash to the person responsible.
Author:  pcernie [ Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:52 pm ]
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I'm not disagreeing with anyone, I just think the 'system' doesn't really work at all since most will tip short of their food being spat in. Restaurants pocketing the money isn't on either way though.
Author:  AlunD [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:21 am ]
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A very simple solution is if you have had service to a level you wish to say thank you for tip the member of staff directly in cash.

That way you know they get it ALL. :D
Author:  pcernie [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:34 am ]
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One of the things that annoys me about tipping is those in the kitchen are never guaranteed to see money, and they're doing the bulk of the work. Going to a restaurant is expensive enough without creating issues by tipping the staff IMO - arguments about the tip, feeling obliged to tip, the staff expecting a tip, who's keeping the money... I think it all causes needless hassle when the staff should be paid properly initially. If a customer gives a tip, maybe throw it all into a tin for whatever decision later.
Author:  Zippy [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:56 am ]
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When I worked in a restaurant, all the tips went into a jar and were divided equally amongst all the serving and kitchen staff at the end of the shift. I think that's the fairest way. Even now I will refuse to add service to a card payment and then pay in cash what I think the service is worth.
Author:  pcernie [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:22 pm ]
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Restaurants’ tipping policy ‘forces waiters to pay to work’ | Life and style | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... ay-to-work

That's some gangster sh1t right there lol, are these places being run by people the Tories had to turn away or something?
Author:  jonbwfc [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:19 pm ]
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Quote:
Las Iguanas, a chain serving Latin American food at 41 branches in the UK, and the Caribbean chain Turtle Bay, which has 19 restaurants, operate a policy that requires staff to pay back to their employer 3% of the table sales they generate on each shift. That figure rises to 5.5% in Las Iguanas’s London restaurants.

If a waiter sells £1,000 of food and drinks in an evening, they have to pay £30 back to the restaurant in cash at the end of the night. At Las Iguanas’s London restaurants, the payback would total £55. The money is meant to be paid by waiters from their pot of tips but, because it bears no relation to how much a waiter actually takes in tips, it can wipe out his or her entire income from gratuities in a busy night.


What the [LIFTED]? I mean, REALLY, what the actual [LIFTED]?
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:45 pm ]
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I'd always assumed staff were allowed to keep all their tips.
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