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Author:  pcernie [ Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:47 pm ]
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18618521

Even with a massive marketing blitz I doubt many would give a sh1t :?
Author:  jonbwfc [ Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:49 pm ]
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It's an Android 4 7" tablet for $200. You can barely walk 5 steps on the high street without seeing one of those. I assume it'll be a bit nicer than most of your Chinese no badge ones but probably not that much better and not that different in price. Google placed Android to produce a commoditised market, it seems odd to try and jump into it themselves at this point.

Jon
Author:  Linux_User [ Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:16 pm ]
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Author:  big_D [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:26 am ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
It's an Android 4 7" tablet for $200. You can barely walk 5 steps on the high street without seeing one of those. I assume it'll be a bit nicer than most of your Chinese no badge ones but probably not that much better and not that different in price. Google placed Android to produce a commoditised market, it seems odd to try and jump into it themselves at this point.

Jon

A bit like Ford releasing an 2.0L RS version of the Focus for the same price as a 1.4L version and complaining that there are already dozens of Focus models at that price point.
Author:  petermillard [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:58 am ]
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GPS chip and offline mapping could turn this into an interesting 7" GPS unit for £160. If I bought one, would this guarantee Apple brings out a ~7" iPad/iTouch Pro in September?? :D
Author:  james016 [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:01 am ]
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I suppose the main difference between this and the no-name Android tablets is this will have all the official Google apps and Google Play which the rest don't.
Author:  jonbwfc [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:25 am ]
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big_D wrote:
A bit like Ford releasing an 2.0L RS version of the Focus for the same price as a 1.4L version and complaining that there are already dozens of Focus models at that price point.

No, it's more like Ford giving the blueprints for the 2.0L RS to half a dozen Chinese car manufacturers who churn out copies for £7K on the forecourt and create a market for incredibly cheap, moderately fast four door saloon cars. Then Ford deciding to actually sell the 2.0L RS themselves for roughly the same price.

You know the Ford version will probably be slightly better but if that model outsells all the others put together that still doesn't really matter, because they're making hardly any profit selling them anyway.

The Apple model is to keep the design to themselves, making them for £9K and selling half as many for £22K a pop. It doesn't really matter to the consumer, most of whom would actually be happy with any of the cheap ones, but if you were a shareholder which would you prefer?

Co-worker of mine bought a Scroll Extreme a couple of weeks ago - a 7" Android 4 tablet. I played with it a bit and I couldn't obviously find anything that it didn't have that I, as a long time tablet owner, felt it needed. It cost him (I think) about £180. Google may well make a tablet that's cosmetically nicer and they do I suppose have some brand cache' but they've done this completely arse-backwards.

Of course the point is Google don't actually care if they make profit on the hardware, they're not actually interested. They just want there to be more Android tablets in more people's hands so they can make more profit from selling their eyeballs (and data) to advertisers. Doesn't change the fact they've binned a large amount of money they could have made if they'd shipped the nexus tablet a year ago. Plus of course they've now utterly pissed off Samsung.
Author:  big_D [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:59 am ]
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Jon, if you look at the tablets at the 150 - 200 UKP price point, most are single core 1Ghz or less, or if you are lucky, a 1Ghz dual core and an ancient graphics chip. You'll also be lucky to get 1024x768 graphics, no chance of HD today.

The Nexus has a 4 core 1.5Ghz processor and a decent graphics chip and an HD display.

That is why I chose the 1.4L versus 2L in my comments.
Author:  timark_uk [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:13 am ]
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I wonder if Amazon is bothered.

Mark
Author:  jonbwfc [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:47 am ]
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big_D wrote:
Jon, if you look at the tablets at the 150 - 200 UKP price point, most are single core 1Ghz or less, or if you are lucky, a 1Ghz dual core and an ancient graphics chip. You'll also be lucky to get 1024x768 graphics, no chance of HD today.
The Nexus has a 4 core 1.5Ghz processor and a decent graphics chip and an HD display.

We're into the 'do the majority of people actually care about spec numbers' argument again, which will be pointless to get into. I'd merely state it's my belief the number of people who buy it because it's quad core will be massively outnumbered by the number of people who buy it because it's got 'Google' on the back.

Google have their pre-order page up - £159 for the 8GB, £199 for the 16GB. Just noticed that's as big as they get and there's no MicroSD card slot. Oh dear.

Actually, after a bit of browsing around, I'm actually more interested in this, which seems to have rather been lost in the shuffle.
Author:  finlay666 [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:27 am ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
big_D wrote:
Google have their pre-order page up - £159 for the 8GB, £199 for the 16GB. Just noticed that's as big as they get and there's no MicroSD card slot. Oh dear.


I just use a USB OTG host cable, cost about £3 and I can stick a 32+gb USB stick in my tablet/phone and use it as a connected device (makes an awesome data transfer tool if you could connect 2)
Author:  Linux_User [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:33 am ]
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I doubt Google are in this for the profit from the hardware - it's more likely a ploy to improve market penetration. After all Google is an advertising company, not a hardware company. If they can control the eco system, have more people use Android and therefore, by extension, Google services, then that works out much better for them.
Author:  pcernie [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:41 am ]
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The full size USB port, sd slot and screen res on my Acer are the reasons I even own a tablet!
Author:  jonbwfc [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:33 pm ]
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finlay666 wrote:
I just use a USB OTG host cable, cost about £3 and I can stick a 32+gb USB stick in my tablet/phone and use it as a connected device (makes an awesome data transfer tool if you could connect 2)

Having a cable and a USB stick plugged into the side of it might possibly have a detrimental effect on it's use as a tablet. If it's relatively easy to shuffle data back and forth that's one thing, but you don't want to have to leave it there day to day.

I certainly wouldn't have a 16GB iPad, even if I could make it a 64GB one by hanging something off it. I know Google are very 'in the cloud' for obvious reasons but in my experience that's a sub-optimal solution.

Jon
Author:  finlay666 [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:24 pm ]
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That is very true Jon, I usually just 'cycle' data between devices, it's not optimal though for lots of info

I think it's more that it's targeted at the Kindle Fire than the iPad
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