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Author:  forquare1 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:26 am ]
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Ruslan Kogan may not be a known entity in the U.S., but the Aussie entrepreneur is a pioneer of online retail in Australia and happens to be the country’s wealthiest self-made person under the age of 30. Oh, and he also founded Kogan.com, a a manufacturer and direct retailer of consumer electronics that’s projected to hit over $100 million in sales this year. But, more importantly, the guy likes to be controversial and, when things suck, he’s not afraid to say so.
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From here on out, Kogan.com will be imposing a 6.8 percent tax on all products purchased by anyone so brash, with such appallingly low standards as to be patronizing Kogan.com by way of IE7. What he calls “the antique browser.”


Clicky

I think it's a brilliant idea!
Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:37 am ]
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So what is he taxing for IE6?
Author:  Spreadie [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:52 am ]
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Note to self - don't visit that site from the company laptop. ;)

It's beyond a joke - more and more sites are becoming difficult to surf via IE7, and still our IT dept does nothing.
Author:  paulzolo [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:41 am ]
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Spreadie wrote:
Note to self - don't visit that site from the company laptop. ;)

It's beyond a joke - more and more sites are becoming difficult to surf via IE7, and still our IT dept does nothing.


A problem with a lot of corporates which are stuck because they relied too much on Explorer for internal functionality. I can imagine the panic when a mission critical site becomes unviewable.
Author:  finlay666 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The IE 7 tax
l3v1ck wrote:
So what is he taxing for IE6?

Nothing :lol:
Quote:
SpamCatchTest
Just tested it, IE6 does not include the tax. This is an excellent workaround for people who don't want to update their browser.
Author:  Linux_User [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:56 am ]
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My employer is going to standardise on IE8 over the next 12 months, I expect by then we'll be in a similar boat as we are now having IE6. :?
Author:  paulzolo [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The IE 7 tax
finlay666 wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
So what is he taxing for IE6?

Nothing :lol:
Quote:
SpamCatchTest
Just tested it, IE6 does not include the tax. This is an excellent workaround for people who don't want to update their browser.


No one cares about IE6 any more. If the site breaks, then tough.
Author:  finlay666 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:02 pm ]
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paulzolo wrote:
No one cares about IE6 any more. If the site breaks, then tough.

Really? Working in a company that specialises in web solutions we still find a lot of businesses still use it and require it to be compatible

Unfortunately it does mean a lot of the cool stuff is reserved for better browsers (web sockets, canvas etc)
Author:  paulzolo [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:10 pm ]
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Microsoft have abandoned it. The best solution is graceful degrading of the site. Think of e6 as a black and white TV. You can till watch modern programmes on it you just won't get the extra benefit of high definition, colour and stereo sound. The basic message is still there. No TV company produces Sd back and white rogrammes any more, but the delivery method ensures that those left behind get something.

I just don't believe in busting a gut to get everything working exactly the same as it would in a more up to date browser. IE6 is the best part of a decade old.
Author:  HeatherKay [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:17 am ]
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I can't believe any company's IT department hasn't been sandbox texting newer browsers against their systems with a view to migrating. In fact, any organisation that hasn't been doing just that ought to be ashamed of themselves. Having a blanket "we only use IEx" seems utterly bewildering to me.
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:43 am ]
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Much of the NHS systems still rely on IE6 due to integration of other software.
Author:  timark_uk [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:49 am ]
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To the original article : good!

Mark
Author:  JJW009 [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:09 am ]
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HeatherKay wrote:
I can't believe any company's IT department hasn't been sandbox texting newer browsers against their systems with a view to migrating. In fact, any organisation that hasn't been doing just that ought to be ashamed of themselves. Having a blanket "we only use IEx" seems utterly bewildering to me.

Often the internal systems were tendered and paid for years ago. Do you really want various government departments spending trillions of your money on new contracts to update things...?
Author:  HeatherKay [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:12 am ]
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JJW009 wrote:
Do you really want various government departments spending trillions of your money on new contracts to update things...?


If it makes them more efficient, then a qualified yes. Justifying stasis is not the answer. It's admitting the installed system wasn't specified properly at the outset.

How much does it cost to have someone in a corner of an IT department testing against new versions of stuff?
Author:  jonbwfc [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:25 am ]
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HeatherKay wrote:
If it makes them more efficient, then a qualified yes. Justifying stasis is not the answer. It's admitting the installed system wasn't specified properly at the outset.

Given government departments are notoriously bad at writing specifications, I'd rather they admitted the fact than not, frankly.

HeatherKay wrote:
How much does it cost to have someone in a corner of an IT department testing against new versions of stuff?

Given the rule of thumb that employing someone actually costs roughly twice their wages, probably between 40 and 50K a a year per project.

Jon
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