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Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:24 pm ] | |||||||||
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Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Care home residents 'denied basic GP medical services' |
Several issues here. 1. Care homes, generally speaking, are poorly run. They employ basic staff some who have minimal medical knowledge or nursing training. The reflex action in any instance is to call the GP. Why? Largely it's to cover their arses. 2. The majority of patients don't need visits. You treat them like you would any normal patient - if they are mobile, they can come to the surgery. Visits are normally reserved for immobile patients or those who are in the terminal phases of their disease. The problem is that there's insufficient staff to cover the care home if one of them has to accompany the patient to the surgery. 3. Being paid to cover a care home is different than just seeing patients. Quite often, a care home will agree a contract with a GP surgery. The contract is more than basic medical attention and involves things like altering drug charts, medication reviews, care plans - essentially ward rounds. This is the extra work and in the cases I've seen, the pay isn't enough to cover the GP's costs or time but is generally high enough to ensure that GPs aren't called out for every silly little thing. 4. Some GPs are lazy and workshy but this is far from the norm, unlike the article states. Very easy to get a one-sided story and blow it out of proportion. I'll give an example of care homes. Yesterday I went a training session. The idea was to learn how to handle calls in the out-of-hours system since we have to do this as part of our training. The trainer took a live call to show how he would handle it. The information we had was that the call from a nursing home regarding a specific patient who had developed a rash after prescribed some antibiotics from a GP. The trainer called the nursing home and asked about the story. He then asked about the patient. It transpired that the patient had been unconscious for several days. No observations (eg blood pressure, pulse, temperature) etc had been taken. Nobody had contacted emergency services. When the trainer asked about why none of this had been done, the nurse became very defensive, stating that she had just come on shift and there had been no handover of information. We were all just flabbergasted. This patient could have had a heart attack, a stroke, or even died and yet nothing had been done. Close to where I work, there's a big fancy care home, split into residential and nursing care. On the outside, it looks lovely. Very fancy with en suite in every room. Lovely decorations. As I went to see the patient, I remember thinking about how I wouldn't mind living here. By the time I left, I decided I never wanted to stay there in my life. What we need is the ability to inspect, investigate and audit care homes without prior warning, and do something about those places where the care is below a minimum standard. |
Author: | paulzolo [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Care home residents 'denied basic GP medical services' |
When we were looking for a care home for my grandma, a friend passed on some advice from his mother who used to work in one. The advice was mostly common sense - look at other residents, look at staff. See how they interact. The one I had not considered was this: if all the windows are open, then it's probably suspect because they are venting smells! OK, that may be extreme and possibly a bit tongue in cheek, but the message was clear - even the posh looking ones can be dreadful. We spent ages reading CQC reports and following up on any questions that arose. we can only be vigilant when visiting to see that all is well. |
Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Care home residents 'denied basic GP medical services' |
The biggest issue is knowing how they are run. A facade can easily conceal how they are run and as I stated, often it's not until you get to see the inner workings that you realise what they're like and quite often the general public have no idea. I would add to your list of criteria is turnover of staff. If there are lots of nurses passing through, is there any reason why they haven't decided to stay on? Why are they leaving? It often highlights problematic areas as most nurses are good and want to try the best for their patients. |
Author: | paulzolo [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:53 pm ] | |||||||||
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The two we liked both had high staff retention, which we felt was good. The one we really didn't like was the one where the person showing us round kept saying "this isn't a prison" (though it looked like one to me). So far, it seems that the home she is in is good. Staff are good, attentive and help relieve the pressure if grandma gets a bit confused or goes into a spin. My mum is happy, and she's spending more time there with grandma than the rest of us. |
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