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Author: | ProfessorF [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:52 pm ] | |||||||||
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9028479/Couple-raise-child-as-gender-neutral-to-avoid-stereotyping.html |
Author: | Fogmeister [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Couple raise child as 'gender neutral' to avoid stereotyping |
I heard an interview with the mum on radio 2 the other day. When I first heard the headline I though she would be a hippy mum forcing her son to play with dolls and wear girls clothes etc... but after the interview I had a completely different view. All they are doing is not influencing their son's choice for anything he wants to do. They are not forcing him to play with girls toys or wear girls clothes or girly colours etc... But also, they are not forcing him the other way. If he wants to play with a doll that's fine. If he wants to play with soldiers then that's fine also. --- I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=54.328177,-1.425618 |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Couple raise child as 'gender neutral' to avoid stereotyping |
If it was just about the child, how did it get in the press? I have a feeling this is much more about them than the child. If they actually were sociologists, they have had to get their idea past an ethics committee. And they'd have failed. The sad thing is a lot of parent seems to feel they have the right to try out any wacky theory they might like on their own child, regardless of the long term possible psychological effects. The more stories I hear like this, the more idiotic 'the right to have a child' sounds to me. Jon |
Author: | belchingmatt [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:17 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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Except.
I understand their point of view, but don't see that they can hope to achieve anything. |
Author: | Spreadie [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:54 pm ] |
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So they're doing this to avoid stereotyping, but are pretty much guaranteed to get him pigeon-holed as weird. Schoolkids home in on the slightest indiscretion or flaw and you end up being labelled for the rest of your school life, at the very least. I can't see their kid looking back on this with any fondness, for the sh!t he's probably receiving. |
Author: | HeatherKay [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:00 pm ] | |||||||||
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Precisely, because most kids are brought up to meet a stereotype - rightly or wrongly. Society has a lot to answer for, hasn't it? ![]() I bet he gets on fine with other children of his age. Oh, and ruched sleeves were all the rage for blokes about 300 years ago. Odd how fashions change, isn't it. ![]() |
Author: | ProfessorF [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:09 pm ] |
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I had a film lecturer at Uni who tried this with her daughter. Gender neutral nursery stories, letting her wear trousers whenever, never dressing her in pink (or blue) for that matter. So it was much to her chagrin that the little poppet still wanted to play with dollies, wear pink sparkly things and generally be a little girl. Society, particularly ours but on a more global basis too, tends to like clearly defined gender roles. They may differ from culture to culture (and some embrace a third and even fourth option) but generally speaking you're born one thing or the other, and raised that way. It's been terribly successful for millennia, but clearly this couple think they've got a new angle on things. ![]() |
Author: | l3v1ck [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:45 pm ] | |||||||||
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Author: | l3v1ck [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:49 pm ] | |||||||||
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Author: | veato [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:29 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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Actually.....
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Author: | veato [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:31 pm ] |
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By the way my little girl is just as happy playing with trains and cars as she is her dolls. S'up to her. I'm not going to now ban her from wearing pink or encourage her to wear rugby tops at the weekend though. |
Author: | Linux_User [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:36 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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That's only because the other children are demonstrating intolerance to things which are not considered "normal" by their own accepted values. And, of course, bullying is never acceptable and should never in itself be tolerated. Fair play to the parents for trying to break down some barriers, can't people let other people live their lives without judging them with their own false sense of morality? |
Author: | Spreadie [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:57 pm ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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This is hardly a new development. It was certainly happening 25-30 years ago when I was at school.
Quite right, bullying should never be tollerated but, while it exists, we shouldn't paint a target on our kids.
Really? However noble their intentions, it's nothing more than a protest at the state of society and naive in the extreme. In this case, they are effectively using their own kid as a placard, and he will likely end up being bullied/tormented. |
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