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Author:  ProfessorF [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Couple raise child as 'gender neutral' to avoid stereotyping

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Couple raise child as 'gender neutral' to avoid stereotyping

A couple who raised their child as "gender neutral" for five years so the infant's "real personality" could shine through have finally revealed he is a boy.

By Richard Alleyne

5:25PM GMT 20 Jan 2012

Beck Laxton, 46, and partner Kieran Cooper, 44, decided not to reveal baby Sasha's gender to the world so he would not be influenced by society's prejudices and preconceptions.

They referred to their child as "The Infant" and only allowed him to play with "gender-neutral toys" in their television-free home.

For the first five years of his life Sasha alternated between girls' and boys' outfits, leaving friends, playmates and relatives guessing.

But the couple have finally revealed his sex after it became harder to conceal when Sasha started primary school.

Yesterday Miss Laxton, a web editor, said that she thought gender stereotyping was "fundamentally stupid".

"I wanted to avoid all that stereotyping," she said.

"Stereotypes seem fundamentally stupid. Why would you want to slot people into boxes?

"It's like horoscopes: what could be stupider than thinking there are 12 types of personality that depend on when you were born? It's so idiotic.

"Gender affects what children wear and what they can play with, and that shapes the kind of person they become."

She admitted that their stance had led them to suffering some ostracisation and she had been branded a "loony" by other parents.

But she felt it was worth it.

"I discovered later that I'd been described as 'that loony woman who doesn't know whether her baby is a boy or a girl', she said.

"And I could never persuade anyone in the group to come around for coffee. They just thought I was mental.

"I don't think I'd do it if I thought it was going to make him unhappy, but at the moment he's not really bothered either way. We haven't had any difficult scenarios yet."

She said she early gender stereotyping was "harmful".

"My mother's very sporty and my dad was very emotional," she said.

"We'd watch The Wizard of Oz and always start crying, whereas my mum would think we were really soppy.

"So it's always seemed obvious to me that stereotypes didn't fit the people I knew."

The family, from in Sawston, Cambs., were so desperate not to prejudice Sasha's life with gender they didn't ask midwives his sex until 30 minutes after he was born.

Only a handful of immediate family members were told of the baby's gender.

Finally the secret got too hard to keep and Beck and Kieran were forced to reveal Sasha's sex when he started school.

Sasha wears a "ruched-sleeved" girl's shirt as part of his school uniform, and has been banned from sporting combat trousers.

The youngster is also encouraged to wear flowery tops at weekends.

Miss Laxton said her son would think nothing of being given flowers – a gift which would embarrass many men.

"I just want him to fulfil his potential, and I wouldn't push him in any direction. As long as he has good relationships and good friends, then nothing else matters does it?

Mr Cooper, a computer software designer, said his son likes to play with Lego and dolls.

He said: "We wanted to challenge gender stereotypes and so if Sasha wants to dress up in girls' clothes then so be it. But we are not forcing it.

Dr Daragh McDermott, a psychology lecturer at Anglia Ruskin University, said the effect of raising a gender neutral child is not yet known.

He said: "It's hard to say whether being raised gender-neutral will have any immediate or long-term psychological consequences for a child, purely because to date there is little empirical research examining this topic.

"That being said, the family setting is only one source of gender-specific information and as children grow, their self-identity as male, female or gender-neutral will be influenced by school, socialisation with other children and adults, as well as mass media.

"As a child grows they develop their own independent sense of self that will include their own individual gender identification."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9028479/Couple-raise-child-as-gender-neutral-to-avoid-stereotyping.html

Author:  Fogmeister [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Couple raise child as 'gender neutral' to avoid stereotyping

I heard an interview with the mum on radio 2 the other day.

When I first heard the headline I though she would be a hippy mum forcing her son to play with dolls and wear girls clothes etc... but after the interview I had a completely different view.

All they are doing is not influencing their son's choice for anything he wants to do. They are not forcing him to play with girls toys or wear girls clothes or girly colours etc... But also, they are not forcing him the other way.

If he wants to play with a doll that's fine. If he wants to play with soldiers then that's fine also.


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Author:  jonbwfc [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:02 pm ]
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If it was just about the child, how did it get in the press? I have a feeling this is much more about them than the child. If they actually were sociologists, they have had to get their idea past an ethics committee. And they'd have failed. The sad thing is a lot of parent seems to feel they have the right to try out any wacky theory they might like on their own child, regardless of the long term possible psychological effects.

The more stories I hear like this, the more idiotic 'the right to have a child' sounds to me.

Jon

Author:  belchingmatt [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:17 pm ]
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Fogmeister wrote:
All they are doing is not influencing their son's choice for anything he wants to do. They are not forcing him to play with girls toys or wear girls clothes or girly colours etc... But also, they are not forcing him the other way.


Except.

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Sasha wears a "ruched-sleeved" girl's shirt as part of his school uniform, and has been banned from sporting combat trousers.


I understand their point of view, but don't see that they can hope to achieve anything.

Author:  Spreadie [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:54 pm ]
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So they're doing this to avoid stereotyping, but are pretty much guaranteed to get him pigeon-holed as weird.

Schoolkids home in on the slightest indiscretion or flaw and you end up being labelled for the rest of your school life, at the very least.

I can't see their kid looking back on this with any fondness, for the sh!t he's probably receiving.

Author:  HeatherKay [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:00 pm ]
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Spreadie wrote:
Schoolkids home in on the slightest indiscretion or flaw and you end up being labelled for the rest of your school life, at the very least.


Precisely, because most kids are brought up to meet a stereotype - rightly or wrongly. Society has a lot to answer for, hasn't it? ;)

I bet he gets on fine with other children of his age. Oh, and ruched sleeves were all the rage for blokes about 300 years ago. Odd how fashions change, isn't it. :)

Author:  ProfessorF [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:09 pm ]
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I had a film lecturer at Uni who tried this with her daughter. Gender neutral nursery stories, letting her wear trousers whenever, never dressing her in pink (or blue) for that matter.
So it was much to her chagrin that the little poppet still wanted to play with dollies, wear pink sparkly things and generally be a little girl.

Society, particularly ours but on a more global basis too, tends to like clearly defined gender roles.
They may differ from culture to culture (and some embrace a third and even fourth option) but generally speaking you're born one thing or the other, and raised that way.
It's been terribly successful for millennia, but clearly this couple think they've got a new angle on things. :roll:

Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:45 pm ]
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Couple raise child as 'gender neutral' to avoid stereotyping
Yeah, because they won't get bullied at school for that will they? [/sarcasm]

Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:49 pm ]
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Fogmeister wrote:
All they are doing is not influencing their son's choice for anything he wants to do.
But they are though? By not letting him wear certain colours etc they're reducing his choice to act like his friends. And most children want to be like their friends. What next? Are they going to ban him from playing football with his mates because it's "a boys sport"?

Author:  veato [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:29 pm ]
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Fogmeister wrote:
All they are doing is not influencing their son's choice for anything he wants to do


Actually.....

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The youngster is also encouraged to wear flowery tops at weekends.

Author:  veato [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Couple raise child as 'gender neutral' to avoid stereotyping

By the way my little girl is just as happy playing with trains and cars as she is her dolls. S'up to her. I'm not going to now ban her from wearing pink or encourage her to wear rugby tops at the weekend though.

Author:  Linux_User [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:36 pm ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
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Couple raise child as 'gender neutral' to avoid stereotyping
Yeah, because they won't get bullied at school for that will they? [/sarcasm]

That's only because the other children are demonstrating intolerance to things which are not considered "normal" by their own accepted values. And, of course, bullying is never acceptable and should never in itself be tolerated.

Fair play to the parents for trying to break down some barriers, can't people let other people live their lives without judging them with their own false sense of morality?

Author:  Spreadie [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:57 pm ]
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Linux_User wrote:
That's only because the other children are demonstrating intolerance to things which are not considered "normal" by their own accepted values.

This is hardly a new development. It was certainly happening 25-30 years ago when I was at school.
Linux_User wrote:
And, of course, bullying is never acceptable and should never in itself be tolerated.

Quite right, bullying should never be tollerated but, while it exists, we shouldn't paint a target on our kids.

Linux_User wrote:
Fair play to the parents for trying to break down some barriers, can't people let other people live their lives without judging them with their own false sense of morality?

Really?

However noble their intentions, it's nothing more than a protest at the state of society and naive in the extreme. In this case, they are effectively using their own kid as a placard, and he will likely end up being bullied/tormented.

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