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Hazel Blears has resigned.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8080777.stm

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"The role of a progressive Government should be to pass power to the people. I've never sought high office for the sake of it, or for what I can gain, but for what I can achieve for the people I represent and serve.


except for as much as I can squirrrel from the expense system.
Thank god the little shrew has left the goverment.

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No her values are definatly not mine, I dont think commiting what would be fraud in any other job being the same as my values!!!

What was that phrase used when Labour came into power.. "we will be whiter than white" :lol: :lol: :lol: maybe in the money laundering!

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I smell a General Election coming. :twisted:

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I very nearly danced when I heard that piece of news. Hazel Blears and Jacqui Smith in one week really is excellent news.

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I smell a General Election coming. :twisted:


Can't see it myself. He knows he would be out so I reckon he will hang on as long as he can. :twisted:

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If they Tories take over I'm on the next plane out of here.

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If they Tories take over I'm on the next plane out of here.

i could never ever vote for the conservatives i remember how much damage they done last time
it makes this labour Govt. look good in every department …

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If they Tories take over I'm on the next plane out of here.

i could never ever vote for the conservatives i remember how much damage they done last time
it makes this labour Govt. look good in every department …


*scoffs*

I wasn't there in 1979, but I've heard the horror stories from my parents about rubbish going uncollected, the dead going unburied etc. If you'd rather Labour continue to bankrupt the Country and return us to an economic quagmire then that's your choice. Personally I don't agree with double figure inflation rates or the Unions dictating public policy.

Personally I'd rather take the fiscal prudence of the Tories over tax and spend any day. I'll also never forgive "new" Labour for destroying civil liberties.

But then I vote Lib Dem anyway, so...

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gavomatic57 wrote:
If they Tories take over I'm on the next plane out of here.

i could never ever vote for the conservatives i remember how much damage they done last time
it makes this labour Govt. look good in every department …


You don't remember the last Labour gov before the Blair one then ?????????? James Callaghan ? IF you did you wouldn't be saying that !


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gavomatic57 wrote:
If they Tories take over I'm on the next plane out of here.

i could never ever vote for the conservatives i remember how much damage they done last time
it makes this labour Govt. look good in every department …


*scoffs*

I wasn't there in 1979, but I've heard the horror stories from my parents about rubbish going uncollected, the dead going unburied etc. If you'd rather Labour continue to bankrupt the Country and return us to an economic quagmire.

Personally I'd rather take the fiscal prudence of the Tories over tax and spend any day. I'll also never forgive "new" Labour for destroying civil liberties.

But then I vote Lib Dem anyway, so...


I think I was posting as you were, yes nobody remembers James Callaghan and what his mates did to the UK !


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and its labour who have put us in this financial mess. Yes I do remember the winter of discontent :roll:

Not labour for me.

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One thing Jimbo Callaghan did know though (he was PM before Thatcher for those who don't know/remember) was Naval Strategy and Diplomacy by force. The Argentinians did plan to invade the Falklands in 1977 and he sent a Nuclear Powered submarine to the area armed with some tactical Nukes and let the Argentinians know about it. That stopped them invading (funnily enough).

Thatcher thought it was far better to send a huge taskforce as a show of force, which were mostly sitting ducks, causing loss of life, more as show of power than the swift silent and deadly approach of Callaghan. Apart from that his stretch as PM and the last Labour Gov in power before Blair in the 90's was his and it was nothing short of an unmitigated disaster.


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One thing Jimbo Callaghan did know though (he was PM before Thatcher for those who don't know/remember) was Naval Strategy and Diplomacy by force. The Argentinians did plan to invade the Falklands in 1977 and he sent a Nuclear Powered submarine to the area armed with some tactical Nukes and let the Argentinians know about it. That stopped them invading (funnily enough).

Thatcher thought it was far better to send a huge taskforce as a show of force, which were mostly sitting ducks, causing loss of life, more as show of power than the swift silent and deadly approach of Callaghan. Apart from that his stretch as PM and the last Labour Gov in power before Blair in the 90's was his and it was nothing short of an unmitigated disaster.


To be fair, Thatcher also sent nuclear weapons to the South Atlantic - and apparently was prepared to launch them. We came off far better than the Argentinians of course, which is a real credit to the RN, although the loss of HMS Sheffield was not only avoidable it was rather shameful too.

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gavomatic57 wrote:
If they Tories take over I'm on the next plane out of here.

i could never ever vote for the conservatives i remember how much damage they done last time


Indeed. I was working at the DHSS between 1986 and 1990, and the social wreckage I saw was ghastly. The local mental hospital was closed, so we had the ex patients to deal with. Massive unemployed - not the scroungers you would imagine, but intelligent, skilled workers who were on the arse end of the recession. Soaring interest rates - good for savers, but would you want a mortgage with 15%+ rates? It was horrible to watch.

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good for savers, but would you want a mortgage with 15%+ rates? It was horrible to watch.


It would work wonders for my pension :D after what labour has done to it recently :roll:

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