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50mm lens, worst most painful lens ive ever bought :evil:


Well, if you try jamming it into a tight orifice, it is going to chafe a bit...:)

On a more serious note, it's sharp, it's cheap, it's great in low light, great control over depth of field - what's not to like??

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50mm lens, worst most painful lens ive ever bought :evil:


What caused you so much grief with it? :?

For the Minoltas, I think I've got about 4 50mm primes, all the same 1:1.7. There is a 1:1.4 out there. Maybe one day, but the 1:1.7 is the fastest lens I own so all my low light stuff (like the Tar Barrels) tends to be on the 50mm.

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So, I was discussing the 50 last night with my mate and he offered me a comparison. He's just got the 24-105 'brick' and set it at 50mm. He set ISO200, 1/125th sec at F5.6 and mounted the camera on a tripod. Autofocus and manual focus snaps completed the test and the results were astounding. Although the 50 is a good lens, the IQ on a 100% crop showed almost a blurred image from the 50 as opposed to the 24-105. I'm starting to think a 10-22, 24-105 and my trusty 100-400 is the way to go. Still like the idea of a 17-40 though :roll:

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So, I was discussing the 50 last night with my mate and he offered me a comparison. He's just got the 24-105 'brick' and set it at 50mm. He set ISO200, 1/125th sec at F5.6 and mounted the camera on a tripod. Autofocus and manual focus snaps completed the test and the results were astounding. Although the 50 is a good lens, the IQ on a 100% crop showed almost a blurred image from the 50 as opposed to the 24-105. I'm starting to think a 10-22, 24-105 and my trusty 100-400 is the way to go. Still like the idea of a 17-40 though

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The above is fair comment but imho misses the point of a "nifty fifty" .

As has been said already the benefits of a "nifty fifty" are "fast, cheap and sharp", whereas while the 24-105 'brick' is sharp it doesn't go below F4 and at around £800 new is hardly cheap.

In good light there is little doubt that the 24-105 is better at 50mm, but in low light you can carry on shooting with a "nifty fifty" for a lot longer without having to increase ISO or put the camera on a tripod.


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Sharp???
Take a look.

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The difference is .... upsetting... 50 on the left...

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A thought-provoking piece from Digital Photography School..

So far my thoughts are... "Could you not get a reference book to help with your grammar?"

My little bro has a 50mm prime lens. I really like it.

With the 1.6X compensation it make it 80mm which is a bit zoomy isn't it?


Whats wrong with her grandma? :lol:

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The difference is .... upsetting... 50 on the left...

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Is this on a Canon body? I'm wondering if you've a back focus issue with that lens.
You could, of course, try focusing manually...

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The one on the left is out of focus - quite impressively so...

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I think I'd be tempted to say that 50mm lens is broken.

Mine is pin sharp under most circumstances.

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Mine is pin sharp under most circumstances.
Prove it!
I want to see a photograph of the head of a pin taken using that 50mm lens you're talking about.
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Money. Mouth.


ƒ/1.8, at the closest point I could get handheld, ISO 100, and cropped to the centre of the frame. The focus missed the head, but at least the barrel of the pin is sharp... :oops:

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ƒ/1.8, at the closest point I could get handheld, ISO 100, and cropped to the centre of the frame. The focus missed the head, but at least the barrel of the pin is sharp...
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Thank you.


You're welcome.

Like I say, I think the lens Al tried is broken. Actually, I seem to recall he mentioned there was a focus issue with another of his lenses, so I wonder if it's actually the camera at fault? :shock:

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Like I say, I think the lens Al tried is broken. Actually, I seem to recall he mentioned there was a focus issue with another of his lenses, so I wonder if it's actually the camera at fault? :shock:

I was certainly shocked by the results he got. I like the idea of yours being pin-sharp though!

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