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I can probably get beer for not much over £2 a pint in the cheapest places around here, but I've paid well over £5 in London pubs.

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I can probably get beer for not much over £2 a pint in the cheapest places around here, but I've paid well over £5 in London pubs.

Ah yes. Rip-off County.

£5 though? Wow. I knew there was a reason I avoid London.

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I'm not a big drinker myself, but I could have sworn someone said the average pint was about £3 here in NI :|

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OK back on topic. I've found 2 HUGE BLOODY ANNOYING problems with this TV...

I'm connected by a fully HDCP compliant HDMI path, as required for the reproduction of copyright HD material.

My old TV was connected via a non-HDCP DVI interface so I could only ever play HD that wasn't copyright; ie pirated stuff.

I'm experiencing a ~20mS lag on the video. I imagine it's down to video processing time. It means playing games is a nightmare. For example, my DDR average on songs I usually score A or AA on has dropped to a C or a D. Charmy is mostly "not satisfied"...

It also doesn't handle video mode changes well. Although it will display most video modes, it requires 10 minutes fiddling with the remote control to make them actually fit the screen! Many games I have do not support the native resolution, and those that repeatedly switch mode are virtually unplayable.

My old TV had no lag, and just displayed whatever I gave it at full screen with no messing about...

Does anyone have any good tricks?? I generally love this TV, but I'm probably going to put a brick through it if I can't fix this problem. It's very very annoying.

There's still time to send it back and get the Sony instead, but is that any better when used on a PC over HDMI in non-native graphics modes with lag-critical games?

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although not really a fix for the TV issue, some rhythm-based games (im going from Guitar Hero, but DDR might have the same) have an option to compensate for screen or audio lag. might be worth having a root around in the settings menu.


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although not really a fix for the TV issue, some rhythm-based games (im going from Guitar Hero, but DDR might have the same) have an option to compensate for screen or audio lag. might be worth having a root around in the settings menu.

You're right, I'm sure there is. I guess I can probably live with that if I can calibrate right, and it seems the TV remembers the settings for each video mode so it's actually not as annoying now!

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It also doesn't handle video mode changes well. Although it will display most video modes, it requires 10 minutes fiddling with the remote control to make them actually fit the screen! Many games I have do not support the native resolution, and those that repeatedly switch mode are virtually unplayable.

My old TV had no lag, and just displayed whatever I gave it at full screen with no messing about...

Does anyone have any good tricks?? I generally love this TV, but I'm probably going to put a brick through it if I can't fix this problem. It's very very annoying.

There's still time to send it back and get the Sony instead, but is that any better when used on a PC over HDMI in non-native graphics modes with lag-critical games?


Is scaling on or off?

For PC stuff you may want to set the PC to do the scaling and not the TV

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Is scaling on or off?

For PC stuff you may want to set the PC to do the scaling and not the TV

For the desktop at native resolution, I've set the TV to "scan only" which is non-scaling. I can then adjust stuff on the computer, but I don't have to.

However, for non-native resolutions when a game is in full screen mode I have no control over the PC. I have to set the TV to do the scaling.

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JJW009 wrote:
saspro wrote:
Is scaling on or off?

For PC stuff you may want to set the PC to do the scaling and not the TV

For the desktop at native resolution, I've set the TV to "scan only" which is non-scaling. I can then adjust stuff on the computer, but I don't have to.

However, for non-native resolutions when a game is in full screen mode I have no control over the PC. I have to set the TV to do the scaling.


If you go into the control panel of your gfx card you can tell the card to do the scaling for you.

Failing that you could check out the widescreen gaming forums for details of how to set your games to the correct resolution for the TV

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JJW009 wrote:
saspro wrote:
Is scaling on or off?

For PC stuff you may want to set the PC to do the scaling and not the TV

For the desktop at native resolution, I've set the TV to "scan only" which is non-scaling. I can then adjust stuff on the computer, but I don't have to.

However, for non-native resolutions when a game is in full screen mode I have no control over the PC. I have to set the TV to do the scaling.


If you go into the control panel of your gfx card you can tell the card to do the scaling for you.

Failing that you could check out the widescreen gaming forums for details of how to set your games to the correct resolution for the TV


scaling is often broken on Nvidia graphics cards, so he could be out of luck there :(

good call on the WSGF though, but they dont seem to have an entry for DDR :cry:


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good call on the WSGF though, but they dont seem to have an entry for DDR :cry:

Actually,

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/StepMania

That's the one I use :D

Unfortunately, I play an early version which supports additional plugins banned on the current version due to copyright claims. There is no 1080 option, and to be honest I doubt if my Atom 230 could handle it if there was! :lol:

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